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I am using electrical resistivity tomography (ERT) method to analysis cacks in concrete
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Wael Fathi Galal, I tried Grouwt, but I have to try gel or Silica gel. Thanks for your answers.
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I want to know that is there any standard range of RMS value for ERT data to be regarded as good quality of results?
As I have studied various publications in which authors have variable RMS values in their tomograms ranging from 2 to 71.
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Electrical Resistivity Tomography (ERT) is a geophysical technique that measures subsurface electrical resistivity properties to produce images of the subsurface. The Root Mean Square (RMS) value is an important parameter used to assess the quality of ERT data. It represents the goodness of fit between the observed data and the predicted data from the inversion process. However, there is no universal standard range of RMS values that can be regarded as a good quality of results because the acceptable RMS value can vary depending on several factors such as the complexity of the subsurface, the data quality, the inversion algorithm used, and the objective of the survey.
In general, a lower RMS value indicates a better fit between the observed and predicted data, which is desirable. However, the acceptable range of RMS values can vary depending on the specific goals of the ERT survey. For example, if the goal is to detect the presence of a specific geological feature, such as a fault or a mineral deposit, then a lower RMS value may be required to accurately image the feature. On the other hand, if the goal is to estimate the bulk resistivity of the subsurface, then a slightly higher RMS value may be acceptable.
In conclusion, there is no standard range of RMS values for ERT data to be regarded as good quality of results. The acceptable RMS value depends on various factors, and it is usually determined based on the specific objectives of the survey and the complexity of the subsurface. However, it is generally accepted that a lower RMS value indicates a better fit between the observed and predicted data, which is desirable.
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Dear everyone,
I just started to learn ERT data processing and am confronting a problem:
We are using the same data. The model that I produce is different from what my colleage produced. (Results are attached below)
I understand that the differences are controlled by the parameters input, however, I wonder how to determine which model is the best representing the real situation?
How to determine which model is the best to carry out interpretation?
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for me I see there is no significant differences between the obtained models, and to answer your question about (How to choose optimum model between many models) you have to integrate your models with another tool to achieve integration and see if both techniques provide good matching results for the problem at hand, if this is not available, thus, I can guarantee you that there nothing to do except studying the geological setting of the study area very well especially outcrops at or near your study area.
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Dear Everyone,
Good day to you. I am processing some ERT data to look for potential mine. The origin RMS is >50% and I filtered the data using "exterminate bad data points" and edit the "RMS error statistic". However, when the RMS error reduced to <10%, all of my IP data went wrong (as shown in the picture).
I would like to know what cause this to happen and how to obtain a good IP pseudosection while the RMS of resistivity is <10%.
I attached the inversion data for the line at below. It mentioned Reference IP used is 0.000.
Thank you so much in advance and I appreciate your kind assistance.
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First of all, I experienced such problem before and I highly recommend you explore (ResIPy) for better error-analysis link below: https://github.com/hkexgroup/resipy/releases/download/v3.4.2/ResIPy-windows.exe
secondly, the problem maybe that the bad data points you exterminated to get lower inversion RMS error is the problem, it may eliminate the anomalous IP measurements.
finally, to better understand the problem I have to see IP measurements.
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Dear everyone,
I am just started in the geophysics field and trying to familiarize the RES2DINV software. However, the model displaying in the software are all cut into half. Is there any way to change the display size of the model?
Thank you so much in advance.
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Hello Gomez,
So many thanks for helping to answer my doubt!! I just figured out the problem.. Since I am using an extended large monitor, the software does not detects the new screen resolution size and remain the same size as my small main monitor on the second larger monitor. This problem could be overcome by process the data in the small screen.
Anyway, thank you for your kindness!
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The most commonly used soil models are the uniform and the two-layer soil model. In actual occasions, homogeneous soil rarely exists, and the result of measurement usually obtained is apparent resistivity. There are several methods for measuring soil resistivity such as the Wenner method. From these measurements it is possible to obtain the apparent resistivity which is represented as a function of the distance between the measuring electrodes.
For grounding system analysis, let us assume a two-layer soil with known parameters (thickness, resistivity ...). How to calculate the apparent resistivity in the cases of; horizontal and vertical electrodes?
The value obtained is very important for the calculation of the per-unit parameters of the model used (TLM).
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Dear;
for more information please check the following documents :
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while processing schlumberger sounding data in IX1D software, we need to input values of layer resistivities, depths (or thickness), for an inital model. In some references, I found the depth is chosen 1/2 of the AB/2 value at inflection point while in some it is AB/2.
Which one is the correct?
The maximum current electrode spacing used is 120m (AB/2=60m) (pic is attached for reference) and the expected depth is 40m-60m but the output depth after inversion is between 15m to 25m.
Please share your ideas and some papers/links related to asymptote/inflection point method or any technique to define layers and depth on a sounding curve.
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To answer these questions you must first know the lecture of
Resistivity curves
1) Two-layer case (A & Q resistivity types)
2) Three Layer Case (AA, QQ, K & H resistivity types)
3) four Layer Case
4) Multilayer case
After that, with some training, you will be perfect in identification
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I am going to carry out some data acquisitions in urban environments such as roads and paved surfaces. Which geophysics or resistivity/IP/SP imaging company do you suggest for getting the flat-based electrode?
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Dear Mostofa,
Also, to conduct ERT survey in an urban environment, you can use the normal electrodes. BUT you have to use a suitable electric drill to make holes for electrodes along the necessary positions in the ERT line. This was conducted in several areas in Malaysia to collect 2D ERT data along the roads. It considered a practical solution for such cases.
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I have 1-D subsurface resistivity measurements ( using Schlumberger electrode array) as well as borehole data up to the depth of 30 m. Is it compulsory to perform curve fitting using the master curves ? Can i directly use the apparent resistivity vs depth plot to match it with the borehole data.
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Dear Navneet Kaur,
1. If data acquired is in plain area (less topographic variations) then curve matching will yield more frutifull results, if topographically vairated area then you have to closely monitor the surfacial changes otherwise curve matching may yield abnormal results
2. Resisitivty is an indirect method so your resisitivty section may not match with bore data as bore gives detail even of small beds which are not detected by resisitivty measurements
3. One thing you can do carry out curve matching and then adjust your curve according to borehole but for that you will be needing more then one point and bore as well, also the subsurface geological strata must be kept in mind
4. Apparent resistivity depth section is not a good idea because of surface spacing adjustments, also bed thicknesses will not be known, so it is not recommended
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Dear all,
I would like to have feedback on your personal experience with autonomous resistivity meters. I know some systems are well documented, but your personal perspective and your contacts will be of great help to me and my research group.
The system we are looking for must be able to perform daily measurements with up to 100 electrodes. We want to be able to download datasets or change protocols remotely. The system will be powered with solar panels and batteries.
We instrumented a large scale site last summer for my doctoral project. About 400 electrodes were buried to monitor the hydrogeological behavior of the site. We plan to perform autonomous monitoring with some of these electrodes (about 100). Transient monthly measurements will be also carried out with the remaining electrodes. The sketch of the site configuration is attached below.
Thank you in advance for your advice or contacts.
Adrien
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I have done a resistivity and induced polarization (IP) in a granitic area of generally S-type, tin bearing. The resistivity method detected a massive anomaly of >3,000 ohm.m which represent the granites of at least 40m depth.
But within the anomaly itself, a range of chargeability (17- 800 msec) did also appear.
What does contribute the chargeability values like that?
Could there any clayey minerals exist within the granites? Or is it related to any mineralization i.e greisen or sulfide in the hard rock?
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Without more information on your surface geology, this is a guess, but granites gnerally weather along joints formed as the overlying cover is eroded. In areas of deep weathering, clay could form along joints. It is also possible that a mafic dike of some variety could be causing this phenomenon. Sulfide mineralization is also a possiblity.
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Thank all for the help. Would you please help me to understand how can I find volume fraction from ERT data?
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First of all, if you mean the volume fraction of one component of the outlined earth materials, you should 3D-ERT data to work with.
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Could anyone help me by a brief explanation or introducing a related article/s?
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You are not giving me much to work with here. What are the materials? Are they layered, graduated or uniformly distributed? What is the geometry? What are the dimensions?
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I intend to carry out electrical resistivity tomography sections in lineament mapping. However, my study area corresponds to a unconfined aquifer. So I do not expect geological faults in the area.
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Ms. Coutinho,
Lineaments tend to be fairly useful in general and can indicate preferential flow paths, potential flow barriers, or recharge characteristics unrelated to fractures. I have attached a few articles. Hope they help!
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ERT data was acquired along a slope with elevation differences. How can I correct for these elevation differences?
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I'd recommend you the link that Danney has sent. Also a close look at the manual would be greatly helpful as well:
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The propose of the electrical resistivity tomography sections is mapping bedrock of a free aquifer in a depth of ~50m. The basin with an area of ~ 65 km² is located in an outcropping area of Guarani Aquifer System, formed by eolian-sandstones from the Jurassic Period (Botucatu Formation) and fluvio-eolians from the Triassic Period (Piramboia Formation). Therefore, it is covered by Cenozoic sediments, with variable thickness in tens of meters.
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Well,
The attached article explains a geophysical study performed east of Rutba town due to vertical electrical sounding in a net of forty points between Dhalaa and Dhabaa valleys. Geophysical electrical model applicated using Winsev 6 program to determine the geo-electrical layers.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/303933182_GeoElectrical_ Investigation_of_Mullusi_Aquifer_Rutba_Iraq
Sincerely
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We performed some electrical resistivity investigation in an area where the host rock was schist. Although the interest of the investigation was not delineate pyrite veins but during the investigation we observed a pyrite vein in some outcrops in the vicinity.
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yes that can be possible, depend of the size of the pyrite vein and the configuration of the electrodes. If the pyrite veins not is too small the method can delimit a area where there is.
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Which method is best suitable for VLF-EM inversion? Upto now I've generated apparent current density depth sections using Karous-Hjelt filter and surfer.
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There are a variety of commercially avaialble existing VLF-EM  processing algorithms, here's one that I have used previously:
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Hello,
  I am trying to use the Van der Pauw technique to measure the resistivity of thin metal films printed on glass. The metals include silver, copper, and aluminium. In the literature, I found that we can use this method to find high resistive semi conductors. But I am not sure whether we can also use this for low resistive metals. 
Please let me know whether I can use this method to find the resistivities of the above mentioned thin films.
Thanks
Sreeman
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Yes, by using Van der Pauw method you can measure small resistivities and pls. find the original paper of Van der Pauw's.
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For a 27% Nickel Clad Copper (Kulgrid 28).
How we can calculate calculate temperature coefficient of resistivity for Nickel Clad copper conductor??  And how it relates with temperature? Specifically, I want to know whether the temperature coefficient of the above mentioned Nickel Clad copper conductor combination is
·   isotropic resistivity ,a linear function of temperature
·   isotropic resistivity ,non linear function of temperature
·   anisotropic resistivity ,linear function of temperature
·   anisotropic resistivity, exponential function of temperature.
PS: The reported values of respective resistivities and temperature coefficients are
ρCu = 16.9 nΩ · m and ρNi = 71.9 nΩ..
αCu = 0.00391/K and αNi = 0.00661/K,
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//chapter-4
//Example-4-2-2 page no.-147
//program_to_find_all_the_TE(n,p)_and_TM(n,p)modes_for_which_energy_transmisssion_is_possible.
radius=.02; //Given. Here_radius_is_in_metres.
uo=(4*(%pi))*(10^-7); eo=8.85*(10^(-12)); //scientific_values_of_permeability_and_permittivity_in_free_space
f=(10^10); //guide_is_operating_at_the_frequency_of_10GHZ
wc=(2*%pi*f); //since, wc=(2*%pi*f)
kc=wc*sqrt(uo*eo); //kc_is_cut-off_wave_number
X=kc*radius ; //the product X=(kc*radius) for_a_given_mode_is_constant
disp(kc*radius,'The_value_of_the_product X=(kc*radius)is = '); //display_the_product_X=(kc*a)
disp('Any mode having a product (kc*radius) less than or equal to 4.18 will propagate the wave with a frequency of 10 GHZ .This is (kc*radius)&lt;=4.18');
syms i j //Defining_the_variables
p=[3.832 1.841 3.054 4.201 5.317 6.416;7.016 5.331 6.706 8.015 9.282 10.520 ; 10.173 8.536 9.969 11.346 12.682 13.987]//represent_the_values_of X_for_ different_modes_in_a_form_of_matrix. Where_columns_represent the_n_values_of_mode_and_rows_represent_the_m_values_of_mode.
for i=1:1:3 //value_of_i_traverse_across_the_rows
for j=1:1:6 //value_of_j_traverse_across_the_columns
if(X &gt;=p(i,j)) //check_if_the_value_in(n,p)_matrix_is_less_than_or_equal_to_X
disp(p(i,j),i,j-1,'TE mode(n,p) and corresponding value of X='); //display_TE_mode_for_which_value_in [(n,p)matrix] &lt;= X and print corresponding_value_of_X
end //end if
end //end for
end //end for
m=[2.405 3.832 5.136 6.380 7.588 ; 5.520 7.106 8.417 9.761 11.065 ; //represent_the_values_of_X_for_different_modes_in_a_form_of_matrix.Where columns_represent_the_n_values_of_mode_and_rows_represent_the_m_values_of_mode.
8.645 10.173 11.620 13.015 14.372]
for i=1:1:3 //value_of_i_traverse_across_the_rows_in [(n,p)matrix].
for j=1:1:5 //value_of_j_traverse_across_the_columns in [(n,p)matrix].
if(X &gt;=m(i,j)) //check_if_the_value_in(n,p)_matrix_is_less_than_or_equal_to_X
disp(m(i,j),i,j-1,'TM mode(n,p) and corresponding value of X='); //display_TM_mode_for_which_value in [(n,p)matrix] &lt;= X and_print corresponding_value_of_X.
end //end if
end //end for
end //end for
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A synthetic model with two layers: assume each layer is homogeneous. I try to use the depth-weighting function to counteract the decay.  I think some data coresponding to the interface in the weighting file generated by depth-weighting function should be modified. what I think now is maybe the field reflection on the interface should be considered and the upper, lower bound?
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Depending upon your geometry of ERT survey, you may need some depth-weighting. However, in most cases such as pole-dipole or dipole-dipole, we usually do not use depth-weighting, because data itself has sensitivity about depth, and inversion could resolve targets in different depths. 
So, what kind of ERT survey are you trying?
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I am planning to do 2D resistivity surveys to demarcate paleochannel network.
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Besides Dale's tips I you advice to adopt a multiscale approach carrying out several  profiles sampling, along the same line,  with different electrode spacings. Without a priori information the best practice is to perform the acquisition along a grid of  lines. This approach could guarantee the reconstruction of more resolved electrical stratigraphies and to resolve thin layers which could characterize the paleochannel. The  long scale acquisitions would allow the preliminar location of paleochannel area (better the corresponding anomaly area where it could be placed) and short scale its characterization.
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I would like to investigate the interior of a mound of soil in the Athens area of Greece.
Note that there is a house built on top of the mound and the area around it is built up with houses, etc.
The mound is about 12m high, with a diameter of about 35m. 
Legends talk of an underground passage that connects a nearby hill to an old church, some 100m long. This "passage" would pass very close to one end of this mound.
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I am grateful to all contributors for their suggestions. I thank everyone for their input and I am looking forward to apply your scientific achievements into uncovering the hidden mysteries at this location
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HOPG is a highly anisotropic material. I'm wondering if there is a straightforward direct method for measuring the in-plane electrical conductivity for square crystals of 1 mm thickness.
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The most reliable is covering opposite edges with silver paint, to force the current to go throughout the sample only in a way strictly parallel to the surface. Then force a small current to flow, measure the corresponding voltage drop with a micro or nanovoltmeter, and measure accurately the distance between the silver paint borders and the thickness of the sample. Then apply Ohm's law. That simple.
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Apart from all the ground disturbances especially power lines, cables, stretch, which method could be best suitable for estimating the subsurface?
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It depends on the target and its depth. the GPR method is good but it requires corrections for the "cultural noise. I am proposing a new method. You can use an electromagnetic device called PL2000 (made in Japen). I've successfully used it ( with Minimum error). that is very better of GPR but only use iron target for example Gas iron pipe , power lines, Conductive cables and ......
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Generally 4 point probe method used to measure the resistivity of a thin film. Can anybody give queries: "is it possible to measure the accurate resistivity of a thin film with substrate". Thank You.
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Generally, substrate are highly insulating materials and their conductivity is negligible as compared to material of the films. In four probe method current flows through the material of the film rather then substrate. Hence , the voltage developed in other two probes is due to the film and not the substrate. This way we measure the resistivity of the thin film and not the substrate.
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I have inspected some crust resistivity models of Parana Basin, and I do not find a high resistivity layer for the crystaline substract as I expected. Is it possible that the low resistivity aquifers in the basin are shielding the rock below?
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It is a possibility that you can check with some simple 1D forward models computed with your best guess resistivity and thickness values as initial input.