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I am using a vector that has repeat sequences, and using Mach1 competent cells. I heard that if the cells are not stable cells, then we shouldn't grow them in 37 to avoid recombination to happen between the repeat sequences.
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It is fine to grow them at 30oC, they will just grow more slowly. I wouldn't use much less than 50-100ng of vector for routine cloning but there is not really an exact figure.
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I would like to transfect bacteria with some plasmids. However, the bacteria are not competent but either isolated from the environment or purchased reference strains.
Can I transfect these strains?
Is there a kit or an established protocol?
Is the procedure much more different or the efficiency much lower than with competent cells?
Thank you
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Luigi Marongiu the answer from Alexandria is good especially with regard to electroporation. I would suggest that approach as otherwise you may need to do a lot of optimiazation for making chemically competent cells.
However you need to pay attention to what it is that you are transforming. Most plasmids are not broad host range, although a few are. So if you are planning to transformn a plasmid be sure it will replicate (or integrate).
On a related note as Tomáš Hluska pointed out, the term transfection is commonly used for animal cells and transformation for bacteria. With bacteria the term transfection has historically been used when being transformed by viral DNA and transformation by plasmid DNA. Conjugation is the natural exchance of plasmids (or genomes) by cell to cell contact, however you can have natural transformation as well which is the uptake of free DNA.
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Hello everyone!
I transformed my vector PL4440 containing the gene of interest, into HT115 competent cells. However the culrure can not grow on LB agar plates (amp + tetr ) antibiotic. Culture can grow from liquid to liquid LB containing Ampicilin 50 mg/ml and tetracycline 12,5 mg/ml. Had anyone this experience ?
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My HT115 with pJET growed ok in plates with that same concentration of antibiotics. It did grow much slower though. How are your competent cells and transformation protocols?
-->I am not sure where you got your HT115 colony but I would encourage you to keep the Tet, if your source is not 100 % sure (this is if someone donate it to you instead of buying it), until you get your glicerol stocks.
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Hello all. I transformed some Agrobacterium competent cells by electroporation and performed colony PCR to see the positive transformants. However, I performed the glycerol stock after 10 days of streaking the cells in a new plate for colony PCR. This plate was stored at -4 degrees. I know that I should make the glycerol stock as soon as I confirmed the transformants, but do you think my cells lost viability during 10 days in the plate before going to -80°C? Thanks
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I would suggest to make glycerol stock from a pure and recently grown plate.. so you may use it later to make liquid broth directly from glycerol stock..
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I have been working with E. coli DH5 alpha competent cells to amplify my PLJM1 plasmid with an insert, but it just doesn't get amplified in the appropriate amount! The bacterial yield is too low as well. But the same plasmid with ERK-2-insert gets amplified in the same bacteria. The bacteria also seem to multiply plasmids very well in the lab next to ours. I have tried the amplification many times, and it's still just a very faint band in the gel. Totally clueless as to why this is happening when the same bacteria with the same plasmid but a different insert grows in the same media, but this doesn't.
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Thanks for the responses! I've actually solved the problem by switching over to NEB Stable 3 E. coli cells. Even that would'nt give a nice yeild in the beginning so I played around with the incubation conditions. Turns out when I allowed the bacteria to grow overnight at room temperature(had to leave the incubator door open), the plasmid's integrity was preserved and I got a very nice yeild.
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I have been trying insert my reporter construct (1.8kb - taken from another plasmid) into my lentiviral vector (9.6kb). They have compatible restriction sites - NheI and EcoRI. I digested the plasmid and insert with the enzymes; gel purified my vector backbone and insert and set up the ligation reaction.
Result of the plates are:
A - ligation reaction - approx 25 colonies. (used 20ul of the ligated mix)
B - vector backbone only - approx 10 colonies
C - insert only - approx 10 colonies
D - no ligase - several colonies
E - EcoRI linearized vector - several colonies
F - EcoRI linearized plasmid containing the insert - no colonies
G - only competent cells - no colonies
I don't understand why i have colonies in my insert only plate. the insert doesn't even have Amp resistance gene. Could there have been some contamination with the vector backbone? Why do i have colonies in the vector backbone only control? does the T4 ligase also ligate uncomplimentary ends in a plasmid??
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You can get a tiny bit of cross contamination without noticing, maybe from your pipets or maybe when you purified your fragments. It is rare you get the background to zero. But go ahead and screen the colonies from your ligation mix and maybe some will be correct.
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I have cloned a 6.46 kb having restriction sites for enzymes BamHI and Not I in pcDNA3.1 vector. After colony pcr screening, the result shows positive result with primer specific to vector and insert region. However no insert size was detected by digestion. Note. ligation reaction was transformed into DH5a competent cells. I am not sure whether DH5a is suitable for large insert size. Thank you so much for kind suggestion.
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6.4kb is not really that large, there should be no problem getting the clone and DH5a will be suitable (unless your insert has lots of repeat sequences).
It may be that you just have a mixture, the PCR detects the fraction with the insert but when you picked a colony you got one without an insert. I would just screen more plasmids.
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A plasmid of mine has GOI in opposite orientation. I have another plasmid which has exact same RE site but in such a way that it orients my GOI in right direction. However even after multiple attempts of RE digestion, Gel extraction followed by ligation, I didn't got any colonies on my transformation plate. I also checked efficiency of my competent cell with empty vector and found no issue (got 200-300 colonies) . I would be grateful if anyone can suggest me any possible solution.
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I agree with the gel extraction being a possible issue. Do you use a column kit or a pellet in resin kit? If it's a column, add an extra wash. If it's a resin/slurry kit, add an extra spin and transfer.
You could also try a different ligase and make sure the buffer is fresh (it does expire, especially if it has been frozen/thawed many times or left out).
I like Quick Ligase from New England Biolabs, you can do plasmid prep, digestion, gel, cleanup, ligate and transform all in one reasonable day.
Good luck!
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Hello. I'm writing with courage to seek advice from professors and researchers. Currently, I am researching the impact of introducing a B plasmid into E. coli carrying an A plasmid, to study the effect of B genes on A genes.
After transforming the A plasmid (ampicillin resistance) via electroporation, I culture the cells to create electroporation competent cells, and then perform electroporation transformation with the B plasmid (gentamicin resistance).
While transforming A and B separately into DH10B Competent cells works well, colony formation does not occur when transforming B into A-harboring competent cells.
A plasmid: ColE1 origin, B plasmid: oriV, so there should be no incompatibility issues.
I wonder if adding ampicillin (1X, 100mg/ml) during the culturing process after transforming A could affect the cells. I tried dividing the cultures into small cultures, always adding 1x ampicillin, and when doing large cultures, I tried not adding antibiotics, or adding them at 0.2x concentration, but in all cases, transformation hardly occurs.
Should I consider anything else? Could co-transformation be the solution?
I would greatly appreciate your help. Please let me know if you need more information for your response.
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It is hard to know what the problem is, could the genes you have cloned on the plasmids somehow be incompatible?
But you could try to reverse the order (do plasmid B first).
Secondly co-transformation usually works fine, however what you are doing should also work. So if there is some compatibility problem then it would occur regardless.
As a control you could try to transform the plasmid B parent plasmid into your competent cells.
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I was making competent cells the other day with a culture volume of 100 mL (diluted from an O/N) in a 500 mL flask.
Starting at 1 h, I started measuring OD to check when the cultures reached OD600 of 0.4. I use a BioWave CO8000 cell density meter. I take 500 uL of culture and measure it against a blank of the medium.
But in the time I take it to the bench and then remove 500 uL, is that measurement really going to be accurate? Is there a better way to monitor the OD of a large culture? Would I be able to set up a smaller culture in a 15 mL tube at a similar dilution such that I can just take the reading from the culture tube? Please advise. Thank you!
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If in doubt make serial dilutions and measure those. If you chill your culture in a fridge the OD should not change much in the time you take to measure the OD.
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I have prepared competent cells of L. lactis NZ9000. But transformation not working. No colony at all in the plate. Parameters are as following:
plasmid concentration: 1 uL (300ng)
Electroporator- Voltage 2.0, 1 pulse
Cells are viable (checked), Antibiotic conc. 10 ug/mL in plate
100 uL spread in one plate, Spin down...then rest of the cells spread in another plate.....no colonies.
Protocol followed:
1. refresh (test tube): 5 mL of GM17 liquid medium was inoculated with 1% L. lactis NZ9000 from glycerol stock and incubated at 30oC for 24 hours.
2. pre-culture (test tube): Two 5 mL bottles of GM17 liquid medium were inoculated with 1% of the refreshed culture and incubated at 30oC for 24 hours.
3. main culture (reagent bottle):
One thousand mL of SGM17 medium (42.5 g/L M17 broth, 102.7 g/L Sucrose, 10 g/L Glycine, 5 g/L Glucose) was inoculated with 1% of the pre-culture medium and incubated at 30oC until OD600 = 0.5 to 0.6.
4. the main culture was ice-cooled for 5 min.
5. The culture was transferred to four ice-cooled 500 mL centrifuge tubes and centrifuged at 4oC for 25 minutes at 5,480 x g. The bacteria were collected.
6. 40 mL of washing solution (10% (v/v) Glycerol, 136.9 g/L Sucrose) was added to each centrifuge tube and resuspended.
7. Each resuspension was transferred to ice-cooled 50 mL Falcon tubes, centrifuged at 4oC, 2,300 x g for 15 min, and the bacteria were collected.
8. 40 mL of washing solution was added to two of the four Falcon tubes and resuspended, then each was transferred to the other two tubes and resuspended again.
9. the bacteria were collected by centrifugation as in step 7.
10. 40 mL of washing solution was added to each of the two Falcon tubes and resuspended.
11. Centrifuged as in step 7 and collected the bacteria.
12. add 1.2 mL of wash solution to each of the two Falcon tubes and resuspend.
13. The resuspension solution was dispensed in 50 µL portions into PCR tubes arranged in a cooled PCR tube stand to make NZ9000 competent cells. After preparation, the cells were stored at -80oC.
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You could try reducing the concentration of chloramphenicol down to 5 µg/mL, since L. lactis is pretty sensitive to it. If that doesn't work, I've had good luck with NZ9000 using the lithium acetate-DTT method:
The 10^10 CFU/mL concentration of L. lactis NZ9000 for the final cell density they mention is approximately an OD600 of 85 (calculated, from a 1:100 dilution). I can't remember if they mention it but you can definitely freeze aliquots instead of making the cells fresh every time. Also you can omit the antibiotics in the recovery broth, that part of the protocol never really made sense to me.
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Two plasmids of different sizes were constructed based on the pBeloBAC11 backbone. One is 18kd and the other is 40kd. Choose to use TOP10 competent cells and transform in CaCl2 solution. The 18KD can be transformed successfully, but the 40kd size does not get colonies. How to optimize My method to transform a 40kd plasmid? Does the method of power transfer help?
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Dear Esteemed Colleague,
Greetings. I hope this message finds you well and immersed in the intricacies of genetic engineering, particularly in the context of plasmid-based transformations, which are fundamental to a wide range of molecular biology applications. Your inquiry regarding the effect of plasmid size on transformation efficiency is both pertinent and insightful, reflecting a critical aspect of experimental design and optimization in genetic manipulation. Below, I delve into the relationship between plasmid size and transformation efficiency, grounded in current scientific understanding and empirical evidence.
Overview of Plasmid Size Impact on Transformation Efficiency
Principle: Transformation efficiency, defined as the number of successful transformants per unit of DNA used, is influenced by several factors, including the size of the plasmid being introduced into the host cell. Generally, an inverse relationship is observed between plasmid size and transformation efficiency.
Key Considerations
  1. Physical Constraints:Larger plasmids encounter more significant physical barriers during the process of entering a cell, due to their increased size and potentially more complex conformation. This can reduce the likelihood of successful uptake by the host cell, particularly in methods relying on passive diffusion or electroporation.
  2. Replication and Maintenance:The cellular machinery must replicate and maintain introduced plasmids. Larger plasmids may impose a higher metabolic burden on the host cell, potentially leading to lower stability and copy number, which can indirectly affect transformation efficiency by reducing the proportion of cells that retain and express the plasmid.
  3. Preparation and Purity:The preparation of larger plasmids can sometimes yield lower purity or concentration, which may directly impact the transformation efficiency. Ensuring high-quality, high-concentration plasmid preparations is crucial for optimizing outcomes.
Strategies to Mitigate the Impact of Plasmid Size
  1. Optimization of Transformation Conditions:Tailoring the transformation protocol to accommodate larger plasmids, such as adjusting the electric field strength in electroporation or optimizing chemical transformation conditions, can help improve efficiency.
  2. Use of High-Efficiency Host Strains:Certain bacterial strains are engineered to improve transformation efficiency, including those with enhanced uptake mechanisms or reduced nuclease activity, which can be particularly beneficial for larger plasmids.
  3. Minimization of Plasmid Size:Where possible, minimize the size of the plasmid without compromising the necessary elements for expression and selection. This may involve the removal of non-essential sequences or the use of smaller backbone vectors.
  4. Incremental Increase in Selective Pressure:Gradually increasing the selective pressure on transformants can help in maintaining larger plasmids within the host cell population, thereby potentially increasing the overall efficiency of transformation.
Conclusion
The size of a plasmid plays a significant role in determining the efficiency of transformation, with larger plasmids generally associated with reduced efficiency. By understanding and addressing the underlying mechanisms through which plasmid size impacts transformation, researchers can employ strategic approaches to optimize the transformation process for plasmids of varying sizes.
Should you require further guidance or wish to discuss additional strategies for enhancing plasmid transformation efficiency, please do not hesitate to reach out. I am here to support your research endeavors and contribute to the advancement of your projects.
Warm regards.
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I have a plasmid with kanamycine antibiotic resistant gene and Bar as a marker gene. I need to transfer this plasmid into AGL-1 strain of agrobacterium tumefaciens. I faced a problem when I follow the protocol steps of transformation. I did not get bacterial colony even after 2-days of a LB media plate having Kan 50ug/ml.
Protocol steps
1- Take competent cells from -80 C.
2- Add 5ul of plasmid having conc. 50ng/ul in 100 ul of AGL-1 BACTERIA.
3- Keep on ice for 30 min.
4- put in liquid nitrogen for 5 min
5- keep on heat bath for 5 min.
6- keep on ice for 5-min again.
7- add 800ul of LB without antibiotic (Kan)
8- Shake for 2-hrs at 28 C.
9- spread on LB media plate with kan 50ug/ml. Keep these plates on 28 C for 2-days.
But did not get the bacterial colony.
These are the protocol steps which I followed. Anyone can guide me where I am doing mistake?
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Hello, remove kanamycin from nutrient media and see do you have a grow of culture or not, if you see grow it mens kanamycin resistance gene transfection or expression problem.
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Hello,
I purchased competent Rosetta2 cells (a BL21 expression strain of E. coli) and my transformations yielded 30-50+ CFUs per SOC plate. However, when I transfer the colonies to liquid culture, there is no growth after 20 hours.
It is a dual antibiotic system, chloramphenicol (100ug/mL) and kanamycin (50ug/mL). I've tried growing the colonies in SOC and LB. However, I am using colonies that I kept at 4C for 72 hours - could this be a problem?
I notice that when I inspect the colonies after refrigeration, there are these crystal growths (my PI believes they are phosphate crystals). Could micro-crystals be forming in my colonies, killing them?
All of my stocks have been autoclaved at 121C for 30 minutes and no one else in lab is having growth issues. I am using filtered tips. Note I am using an expression plasmid that's been successfully used in lab for many years/projects.
My next approach is to try restreaking a colony/repeating the transformation and trying only fresh colonies that haven't been refrigerated. Negative control plates (non-transformed competent cells) don't have any CFUs. Everyone is puzzled at my growth challenges.
Best,
Dan
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Hi Dan,
This answer, obviously, comes too late and you've probably resolved your issue already but in case somebody googles this in the future with similar struggles..
I wonder if the Chloramphenicol concentration you are using it too high? The BL21 DE3 Rosetta2 cells I use (Merck) have a manufacturer-recommended Chloramphenicol concentration of 34μg/mL and this website https://www.addgene.org/protocols/pouring-lb-agar-plates/ suggests 25μg/mL.
Good luck,
Igor
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I have inserted crispr vector in BL21 competent cell with ampicillin resistance and after induction with IPTG for protein ...no cas protein band was obtained using SDS page.. not even near to its size both in the supernantant as well as in the pellet... Can anyone help me.. the vector I ordered contains 6x his tag... But no protein after NI Nta agarose...
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Thank you for your time and consideration
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I am working with plasmids containing aion channel, with the goal of eventually using them for transfection in Hek cells.  The problem I am having is preparing these plasmids at the bacterial transformation stage.  I have 2 different channels (both from he HCN family), on of them (HCN2) grew perfectly on the first try in XL1 Blue cells.  However I am now doing point mutations on the channel (using a Quikchange kit) and I cannot get a colony that has my intact channel.  Additionally I am trying to use HCN1, another member of the same family, and it is giving me similar problems to the mutation reaction.  Here is what I have tried so far:
1.  I am using internal channel specific primers to screen picked colonies for the presence of my plasmid.  PCR of the unmated HCN2 plasmid produce a clean band of the appropriate size.  PCR of the mutation reaction prior to transformation produces a single band of the right size. but PCR's of the picked colonies for the mutants do not, they show multiple bands.
2. Used Stbl2 competent cell to hopefully prevent recombination of the plasmid,but the pct's looked the same as the XL1-Blue.  
3. Tried incubation at 37 and 30 degrees, and decreasing the antibiotic concentration, but still the same problem
I have tried these things with both the HCN2 mutation reaction and the wild type HCN1 plasmid and have had no luck.
Any advice would be much appreciated!  Also, if there are any extra details that would help please let me know 
Thanks! 
Anna
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Plasmid recombination following transformation can be a significant issue, especially when working with constructs that have repetitive sequences, large plasmids, or multiple plasmids being transformed into the same cell. Several factors can contribute to plasmid recombination:
1. Presence of Repetitive Sequences
  • Plasmids containing repetitive sequences are prone to recombination. During bacterial replication or repair processes, these sequences can misalign, leading to recombination events.
2. Plasmid Size and Complexity
  • Large plasmids or those with complex arrangements of inserts can be more susceptible to recombination. The physical stress during the transformation and replication process can lead to breakage and erroneous repair, facilitating recombination.
3. Host Strain Recombination Activity
  • The choice of bacterial strain for transformation can significantly affect recombination rates. Some strains have higher recombination activities due to their innate DNA repair and recombination mechanisms. Using recombination-deficient strains (e.g., recA mutants) can reduce this issue.
4. Transformation Method
  • Certain transformation methods may inadvertently promote recombination. Electroporation, for example, can create transient breaks in DNA, which under certain conditions might lead to increased recombination.
5. Multiple Plasmids in One Cell
  • Transforming multiple plasmids into the same cell increases the likelihood of recombination between them, especially if there are homologous sequences present.
Strategies to Minimize Recombination:
  • Use recombination-deficient strains: Strains like DH5α, STBL3, or those specifically engineered to reduce recombination (e.g., recA mutants) can help.
  • Minimize repetitive sequences: When designing plasmids, avoid or minimize the inclusion of repetitive sequences that can promote recombination.
  • Select appropriate cloning sites: Use unique restriction sites and cloning strategies to minimize recombination hotspots.
  • Optimize transformation conditions: Gentle handling and optimization of the transformation process can reduce stress-induced recombination.
  • Single-plasmid transformations: If possible, avoid co-transforming multiple plasmids into the same host to reduce recombination events between them.
  • Screen for recombination: After transformation, screen colonies carefully using PCR, restriction digestion analysis, or sequencing to identify and exclude recombinant plasmids.
Addressing these factors and implementing strategies to minimize their impact can significantly reduce the occurrence of unwanted recombination events during plasmid transformation.
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I have to clone a 1920 bp insert cut with NheI and HIndIII into my 7767bp vector cut with the same enzymes. Protocol used:
1. I cut 5 ug of insert vector and 2 ug of destination vector and gel purified it.
2. Performed ligation at 1:1, 1:3 and 1:5 ratios as a 10 ul reaction using T4 ligase from NEB at 16 C overnight.
3. Transformed 5 ul of ligation mix into NEB5 alpha, XL-10 Gold ultracompetent and Thermo DH5alpha competent cells according to manufacture's protocol and plated on LB +Amp plates with incubation overnight.
All reagents are new. However, I don't see any colonies after transformation. My gel picture shows that ligation has occurred I think. Lane 5, 6 and 7 are ligation products at 1:1, 1:3, and 1:5 ratios respectively. Lane 3 is cut insert and lane 10 is cut destination vector.
What could be going wrong?
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Thanks for the information. Sounds like you have a problem with the ligation reaction itself.
Here are a few things you might want to try different (and what I have always done with success):
1. Perform the ligation at RT O/N.
2. Cut the amounts of vector/insert way back - use 1ng of vector and then adjust your vector ratios based on that.
3. Increase you ratios to 1:40, 1:50, 1:60 - never found the 1:1, 1:3, 1:5 ratios to work consistently.
4. Use 1ul for transformation.
5. Resuspend transformed cells in 250ul SOC and after incubation plate the entire amount.
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Currently, I'm working on cloning experiments using competent cells (E.coli--> DH5-alpha). I've performed ligation before and continued with transformation in competent cells. after incubation overnight, I got colonies, then I spread the colony in Amp+X-gal+IPT to perform blue-white screening. unfortunately, after 16 hours in 37 degrees condition, I checked, and I didn't found any colonies grown. i did twice and the results were the same. could anyone know what caused my colony not to grow at all? thank you for your answer.
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I am a little confused by the description of what you did. Why did you not directly plate the transformation of your ligation directly on Xgal + ampicillin plates?
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I am currently doing my PhD project which consists of a lot of cloning of new plasmids I am assembling. Our laboratory generally maintains the collection on JM109 strain. But since I am doing a lot of Gibson Assemblies, I have been using electrocompetent DH10B cells for higher efficiency. My question is, can I use standard protocol of preparation of electrocompetent E. coli on JM109 instead of DH10B?
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Yes, you can adapt the protocol for preparing electrocompetent E. coli cells from DH10B to JM109. However, it's important to note that different strains of E. coli may have slightly different requirements for optimal transformation efficiency, so you may need to optimize the protocol for JM109 cells.
Here's a general outline of how you can adapt the protocol for preparing electrocompetent JM109 cells:
  1. Start with a fresh overnight culture of JM109 cells grown in LB medium at 37°C with shaking.
  2. Inoculate 50-100 mL of LB medium with the overnight culture and grow at 37°C with shaking until the culture reaches an OD600 of around 0.4-0.6. This typically takes 2-3 hours.
  3. Chill the culture on ice for 15-30 minutes to stop growth.
  4. Pellet the cells by centrifugation at 4°C for 10 minutes at 4000 rpm.
  5. Remove the supernatant carefully and resuspend the cell pellet gently in an ice-cold solution of 10% glycerol using a small volume (typically 10% of the original culture volume) to concentrate the cells.
  6. Centrifuge the resuspended cells again at 4°C for 10 minutes at 4000 rpm.
  7. Repeat the wash step with ice-cold 10% glycerol one or two more times to ensure the removal of any remaining LB medium.
  8. After the final wash, resuspend the cells in a small volume of ice-cold 10% glycerol to achieve a concentrated cell suspension.
  9. Aliquot the electrocompetent cells into small volumes suitable for single-use transformations (typically 50-100 µl).
  10. Flash freeze the aliquots in liquid nitrogen and store them at -80°C for long-term use.
  11. To use the electrocompetent JM109 cells, thaw an aliquot on ice, add your DNA (e.g., plasmid DNA for transformation) to the cells, perform the electroporation, and recover the transformed cells in SOC medium before plating onto selective agar plates.
By following this adapted protocol, you should be able to prepare electrocompetent JM109 cells for your Gibson Assembly experiments. It's always a good idea to perform optimization experiments to determine the optimal conditions for your specific application.
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I am trying to transform DH5-alpha E. coli with plasmids containing a desired gene along with the amp resistance gene. I have done this exact procedure several times before with the same plasmid (containing different desired genes) with no issue, but this time, I am getting no colonies at all. My competent cells seem to be fine as the cell aliquot transformed with my positive control plasmid grew fine.
My protocol involves incubating 20 uL aliquots of competent cells with 10 ng of DNA for 30 minutes on ice, then heat shock at 42.5 degrees C for 40 seconds followed by incubating on ice for 2 minutes. Then, I add 250 uL of pre-warmed LB broth without antibiotics and incubate in a shaker incubator at 37 degrees C for 1 hour. Then, I plate 100 uL of the mixture on plates containing ampicillin and let the plates incubate overnight at 37 degrees C.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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My best guess would be a DNA issue, as your cells give you colonies from your + control (that rules out cell issues, plate issues, incubator issues). Try re-quantifying your DNA and, based on that number, run a visualizable amount (50-100 ng minimum) on a gel to make sure it's not degraded.
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Hi all.
For my last LR reaction I used SURE competent cells cells (link) for the transformation (since the final plasmid was very big).
I got many colonies (which is always suspicious) and end up finding that most (if not all) had the pdest vector (wich has the CCDB lethal gene). I finally transform 3 different destination vectors in SURE cells and DH5alpha and got to the conclusion that SURE cells seems to be resistant to the ccdb gene.
This resistance is not reported by the company. Does anyone has experienced with this type of competent cells? Is it normal this resistance?
Thanks
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SURE (Superior Unwanted Recombination Elimination) competent cells are a specific type of E. coli cells used in molecular biology, particularly for cloning applications where recombination can be problematic. These cells have mutations in several recombination pathways, which makes them less prone to unwanted recombination events, particularly useful when cloning repetitive sequences or sequences prone to recombination.
Regarding ccdB resistance, this relates to a different aspect of molecular cloning. The ccdB gene is often used as a negative selection marker in cloning. It encodes a toxic protein that inhibits the growth of most E. coli strains, including standard lab strains like DH5 alpha. Plasmids containing the ccdB gene cannot be maintained in these E. coli strains, as the ccdB protein is lethal to the cells.
In cloning applications, ccdB is used in combination with specialized strains that are resistant to its toxicity. These strains, such as DB3.1 or ccdB Survival, have mutations that render them immune to the ccdB toxin. This system allows for the selection of cells that have lost the ccdB gene due to successful cloning events.
If you're working with SURE competent cells and are concerned about ccdB resistance, you should be aware that standard SURE cells are not inherently resistant to ccdB. If your cloning strategy involves the ccdB gene, you will need to use a ccdB-resistant strain for cloning steps that involve the ccdB selection marker.
If your experimental design requires both the recombination-deficient properties of SURE cells and ccdB resistance, you might need to consider a different approach or modify your cloning strategy to accommodate the limitations of the available strains. For instance, using a different negative selection marker compatible with SURE cells or conducting your cloning in two stages, using a ccdB-resistant strain for the ccdB selection step and then transferring your construct to SURE cells for propagation.
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Hi all,
Hope you are having a nice day! I was wondering if anyone has used the bac-to-bac baculovirus expression kit to express recombinant protein? There is a step when creating the virus, where you transform a shuttle vector into DH10bac competent cells which contain a bacmid. This recombines with the shuttle vector to introduce your gene of interest into the bacmid, which you then isolate. I have followed this procedure using the manufacturer's specifications, and do get colonies. When I screen my control (uses a control vector sent with kit), the recombination did occur, but did not occur with my gene. I picked six colonies from each. The control vector has an insert which is a similar size to my insert. You select with gentamicin (shuttle vector encodes resistance), tetracycline (helper plasmid which contains genes that help facilitate the recombination event), and kanamycin (bacmid has resistance gene). Blue/white selection with bluo-gal and IPTG is supposed to select for recombination, colonies with recombinant bacmid should be white, not blue. I bought new bluo gal for my plates, so definitely should be good, and am getting many colonies on my plate but none are blue (which again would be negative.) However, when I screen them, they contained unrecombined bacmid. I have just picked 20 colonies off of the plate and am screening with colony PCR. My next ideas if I don't get anything from that are to up the bluo gal, up the IPTG, and troubleshoot/ use more of my shuttle vector in case actual transformation is the problem (kit has me using 1 ng which to me, seems low for this application.) The cells are expensive however, and I don't know much about optimizing recombination/ratios, etc. Does anyone have any suggestions? Sorry for any incorrect terminology or statements, I am completely new to this system. Also, I have attached a schematic of the system from the manual in case this helps.
Thanks,
Claire
Also, sizes:
Shuttle vector + my gene: approx 8 kb
Bacmid: 135 kb
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One easy attempt would be to reattempt just as you described but make sure your antibiotic selection reagents are new. Kan and G418 can break down over time. If you still have your transformed bacteria vial, just spread that on the new plates to not waste anything.
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I am using a pET28B vector to clone my 2.1kb insert digested with BamH1 (fwd) and Xho1 (rev) restriction enzymes. I'm using over 1ug of DNA for restriction digestion, kept at 37°C for over 3 hours. For cohesive end ligation, I'm using Promega T4 ligase, and keeping the setup (3:1, 5:1 and 7:1; insert: vector) for 16 hours before transforming in Dh5alpha competent cells followed by plating on Kan plates. I've been doing this for quite sometime now. But everytime, all I get are false colonies. I've tried to troubleshoot every single step but to no avail. My ligase is also new.
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Dear Aniket Banerjee i agree with several points from Mariana. The key points that can go wrong is that not both enzymes cut efficiently, the Ligase is not efficient, or (less likely) your transformation efficiency is low. When you say false colonies, are they the empty pET28B? The things to make sure are: A) is your vector cut by both enzymes? check that u are using a good buffer for both enzymes (see company webpages tools, e.g. Thermo double digest calculator), and add a bit more of the enzyme with less efficiency. You can make a control with no, 1, the other, and 2 enzymes and run on the gel together to double check that they both work. Cut and purify always from the gel. You can include dephosphorylation of the digested vector directly after digestion before running the gel to keep any remaining vector that is only cut by one enzyme from religating. B) is your insert cut well? Are you cutting out of a backbone and can see well that both ends are cut or are you digesting a PCR product? restriction sites close to the ends are less efficiently cut (eg. check here https://www.neb.com/en/tools-and-resources/usage-guidelines/cleavage-close-to-the-end-of-dna-fragments). Subcloning the PCR fragment first can help in that case. Also purify the digested insert via gel of course. For the Ligation, the concentrations should be verified by running an aliquot on gel (nanodrop especially low values are sometimes not so accurate). 2:1 or 3:1 is ok, more is not helpful i think. For Ligase u can also make a control with a singe enzyme digested not dephosphorylated vector. Finally, check that transformation efficiency is decent. Low efficiency makes it harder to get larger plasmids. Good luck.
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Hi all,
I've never worked with E.coli strains that already carry a plasmid and tried to make competent cells from them.. is it simply the usual protocol for chemically competent cells, but add the appropriate antibiotic in each step?
Your advice will be much appreciated
Cheers
Lisa
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Hello, In theory yes, add the appropriate antibiotics to keep the plasmid to make competent cells. Usually, for protein expression, the cells do not need to be super competent as the constructs have already been cloned and verified...just need to transform into a new host.
In this case, for simplicity, I would suggest any of the common TSS methods...they're quick, easy, and will work well for already made plasmids.
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Hello,
I am attempting to co-express two different genes in Pichia pastoris X-33. My colleague successfully achieved this by transforming two different vectors simultaneously. Essentially, he added two distinct plasmids to the competent cells and performed electroporation. However, I am struggling to replicate this efficiently without resorting to multiple attempts and relying on luck. Do you have any suggestions on how to enhance the efficiency of this process?
One idea was to transform one gene and then the other one, with each vector containing a different antibiotic resistance. However, this strain is known to use only Zeocin (correct me if I am wrong).
Another obvious answer would be to create a construct with two different genes. However, in my work, I need to use any different gene combination. So, this would add too much extra work.
Thank you, and I hope you're all having a lovely New Year.
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I am not using Pichia system for expressing multiple proteins but my suggestion to you is not to use the same selective marker for each plasmid (if both plasmids have Zeocin it is impossible to distinguish just by selection between a single or a double transformant). X-33 is a wild type strain therefore you can surely use also other markers like KanR (G418 resistance) or Hph (hygromycin B resistance). Using plates containing both drugs should help you to select double transformants. Hope this helps.
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We had to put our pJet1.2 plasmid in a XL1-Blue Competent Cells. The result were very small colonies on a LB agar medium with ampicilin and IPTG. bands with a very low concentration were visible after gel electrophoresis. Is there a different bacteria that we can use that can produce more plasmids so we can see it with gel electrophoresis?
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Do you use IPTG because you are screening for blue/white colonies? Have you tried without IPTG, this means not using the blue/white selection? Colonies could grow bigger without, because they do not have to produce the alpha-peptide fused to the peptide encoded on your DNAinsert.
Best wishes, J
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We have recently purchased competent shuffle E. coli cells from NEB, and we have to prepare more chemically competent cells, but I don't know if it would be better to grow the starter culture and the culture in the growth phase at 30ºC or 37ºC.
Any help would be useful, thanks!
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NEB recommends 30° for growth, so I would go with that.
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Dear biology scientists,
Hello, I should do transduct lentivirus in the 293FT (HEK293) cells soon.
However, I have failed tranformation because the DH5a colonies were too low.
Let me tell my experimental procedure as below.
1. Making 10 mL of LB agar plate without any antibiotics
2. Spreading 10 mg/mL of Ampicillin in the 10 mL of LB agar plate
3. Melting the Escherichia coli DH5a in the ice
4. Aliquoting the DH5a by 30 uL per each sample
5. Inserting a vertor sample in the DH5a by doing spiral pipetting
6. 30 min incubation in the ice
7. 42 degree Celcius for heat-shock
8. 2 min incubation in the ice
9. Putting 1 mL of LB broth without any antibiotics into the heat-shocked DH5a
10. 37 degree Celcius incubation in a shaker for 45 min
11. 13000 rpm, 2 min, room temperature centrifuge
12. Spreading 100 uL of supernatant in the LB agar plate with 100 ug/mL Ampicillin
13. 37 degree Celcius incubation in an incubation
I have no idea why my colonies were rarely shown.
Another person did my procedure, and she got many pMD2G colonies and psPAX2 colonies.
What is my problem? Please help me.
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Sure you can.
Here is the protocol I use.
Preparation of competent E. Coli cultures
Important: Do not use any antibiotics for DH5a.
Inoculate an LB culture with DH5α cells (directly from the frozen stock without thawing) and grow overnight at 37 °C.
1. Inoculate 5-6 colonies in 100ml SOB medium in 1L flask, grow to OD600~ 0.3-0.6 at 18°C, (250 rpm). Do not exceed 0.6.
2. Incubate on ice for 10 minutes
3. Centrifugate (2,500g 10'min at +4°C).
4. Resuspend the sediment in 32ml of cold TB.
5. Incubate on ice for 10 minutes
6. Centrifugate, 2,500g 10 min at +4 °C.
7. Resuspend the sediment in 8ml of cold TB.
8. Add 560ul DMSO (carefully, slowly, I recommend add it on the tube wall while slowly rotating the tube).
9. Incubate on ice for 10 minutes
10. Dispense the suspension into sterile microcentrifuge tubes (100 ul is enough ph).
11. Freeze in liquid nitrogen
12. Store at -80°C
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Hello I have been trying to transform pet28b plasmids into Rosetta cells. I have tried two plasmids that already show expression in BL21 ( DE3) cells. Is there a list of compatible plasmids that can only be transformed into Rosetta cells? Also, does the factor that Rosetta cells have a resistant gene to Cloramphenicol has something to do? because my pet28b plasmid has a resistant gene to Kanamycin
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To main the Rosetta 2 (DE3) strain, do we have to grow them in any antibiotic? Chloramphenicol?
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I have purchased this plasmid from addgene:
From the agar stab, I have been able to grow the plasmid on LB-ampicillin plates (100mg/L) and it grows great. I isolated the plasmid using a miniprep kit, and it is exactly where it should be on a gel.
Then I tried to transform the plasmid into BL21(DE3) competent cells (NEB). No luck.
I have been troubleshooting this for months. I use pUC19 as a positive transformation control, and it always works really efficiently. I have tried changing DNA concentration, volume, heat shock time, recovery time, everything I can think of. I cannot get this plasmid into cells. Please help!
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Have you tried transforming your plasmid preps into a different strain of E. coli just to double check that the plasmid preps are good and that there's not something weird going on with that?
If it's not that then maybe try adding 10 mM glucose to the recovery broth and plates, in case it's an issue of leaky expression.
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I prepared electrocompetents of the AGL1 strain following the "water" protocol: the bacterial culture was resuspended in water, subjected to two washes in water, one in 10% glycerol, and finally resuspended in 10% glycerol. When I attempt to electroporate, arcing occurs. This happens even when I use only the competent cells without the plasmid, indicating that it is not due to the presence of salts in the miniprep.
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are you using new electroporation cuvettes? (they can be reused several times after extensive washing but they all finish one day in a flash!!) are you sure of your electroporation program? are you sure of the purity of your water (use autoclaved or filtered milliQ water 18.2 MΩ.cm) and glycerol ? maybe you have some salt in your water or glycerol... check their resistivity, do more washes... for E. coli we do not use glycerol just water...
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I prepared electrocompetents of the AGL1 strain following the "water" protocol: the bacterial culture was resuspended in water, subjected to two washes in water, one in 10% glycerol, and finally resuspended in 10% glycerol. When I attempt to electroporate, arcing occurs. This happens even when I use only the competent cells without the plasmid, indicating that it is not due to the presence of salts in the miniprep.
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Make sure that the water you use is distilled or miliQ, no tap water should be used for washing or diluting the glycerol. Also, chill the cuvettes in ice before using them.
Are you sure that the parameters you are using for electroporation is correct? Pay attention to the gap size of your cuvette and modify electroporation parameters accordingly.
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I have a 22kb backbone that needs to use Fse1 (NEB) and Kfl1 (Thermo) to cut to(21+kb and 700+bp bands). Still, the 2 enzymes come from different companies and their buffers are not the same(rcut-smart vs. fastdigest10 buffer), No matter whether I digested them together or separately, I couldn't get the right band, so I guess Fse1 didn't play a role ( I have already did the dam–/dcm– Competent E. coli C2925 transformation firstly), but Fse1 still can not cut my plasmid... So what should I do, try HST04 dam-/dcmCompetent Cells (form TAKARA)??? or redesign the vector?
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I would suggest you do each single digest first to see if both enzymes actually cut (or not). There are two things to consider, first one enzyme might not be cutting (so you need to confirm). Secondly if both enzymes are cutting fine but you are not seeing the right size bands, then maybe the plasmid is not correct.
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I am doing Pcr cloning trying to clone a 3000 bp pcr product into a 9000 bp pcdh_bec1 plasmid .digestion was done using Xba1 and Not1 ,after gel extraction loaded 2ul on the gel and observed faint band of backbone. for ligation used 2ul(10ng/ul) backbone and 17ul of the insert(24ng/ul). didn't get any colonies I am using stbl2 cells growing them at 30 degrees to reduce chances of recombination.
when i followed the same strategy with the Plvx vector using the same competent cells i observed good amount of colonies although efficiency of competent cells was low.
Can someone help?
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Hello. It is better to use the TA cloning method for cloning large pieces. You can also make changes in your ligation to increase the efficiency of the reaction. You can use the site https://nebiocalculator.neb.com/#!/ligation to get the exact values of the vector and insert, in the ligation reaction. Also, changing the strains of bacteria used in transformation or their preparation method can help you. TOP10 bacteria is a good option for preparing competent bacteria using calcium chloride.
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I have JM109 competent cell from PROMEGA.As the stock is about to finish, iam planning to make more competent cells following usual CaCl2 mediated protocol.My question is whether JM109 that is with me can be used as strain to proceed with the plan or else i need to procure one mutant strain? If i need to procure the strain, then where to in India?
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Not yet. Will that be okay to proceed with?
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Hi everyone
I have 2 vectors and I want to transform these into one bacteria cell (SHuffle strain).
Do you think co-transformation (Transforming 2 vectors together in one step into the competent cell) has an effect on Protein expression?
Or, that I have to transform the vectors step by step (e.g. transforming vector number 1 after that competent this cell and transform vector number 2).
is really different between these two strategies for Protein expression?
Note: I used co-transformation for these 2 vectors But the Expression rate was so low Compared with when I Expressed one vector Separately.
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Thank you so much for your comment.
actually, My results show no difference between CO-transformation and competent in protein expression (I competented My Bacteria and Used step-by-step transformation).
However, thank you.
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I did yeast two hybrid transformation a few days ago and no yeast colonies grow in the DDO+ 225 AbA plates after 3-5 days. OD600, carrier DNA, competent cell, as well as the amount of AD and BD plasmid were correct according to TAKARA manual. Can anyone know the reason why no colonies could grow in the plate?
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Try giving it a few more days. Sometimes you'll need 7-10 to see some growth. Also, try making single plasmid selection plates to check that both your bait and prey plasmids are giving good transformation and growth on their own.
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I transformed a library into stbl3 competent cells following a standard protocol which is like incubation 30min in ice, 42°C for 45s, soc culture at 37°C for 1h, before culturing at 30°C on LB Amp+ dishes.
some supplementary info:
1. The dishes look normal after 30°C culture.
2. The plasmid was tested and had no problem.
3. I used another plasmid to tansform and harvested bacteria directly from the dishes(didn't frozen in refrigerator) with correct plasmid.
I can only find one reason for this phenomenon is that -80 made it happened. Can you help me find other factors?
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Prasad Trivedi Thank you for suggestions!
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Hello,
I am having difficulties working with E. coli WK6 cells.
I have used the WK6 cells to express Nanobodies for almost three years, and everything has gone well. One difficulty I encountered was preparing a fresh competent cells every month, unlike other E. coli strains in our lab.
The second difficulty I am facing is that I've tried six times over the past month to create a new batch of cells. Despite trying different approaches, I've been unable to get competent cells that are able to preform.
My protocol for wk6 preparation is based on Inoue et al.'s (1990) Gene 96:23-28.
I would appreciate any help you can offer.
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If the colonies look normal then I can't think of any reason you are having problems. That strain is fairly standard with respect to its genotype.
It is true that different strains respond with differing efficiencies to various protocols for making competent cells. So you might have better luck with a different protocol, but I'm not certain.
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I have transformed around 1000 ng of my circular plasmid into E. coli BL21 (DE3). However, there was no colony but a transparent bubble-like 'colony' formed at the bottom of the plate (As attached) . May I know what is it and how to overcome this?
I think there is nothing wrong with my competent cells as the transformation of positive control (blank vector) was successful.
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Skipping Rnase should not impact the transformation. Using 1000 ng is a ton of DNA, you may want to try using a smaller amount. The colonies you are getting look really nice so if the goal is just to have your plasmid in culture then it looks like you succeeded. I agree that the efficiency is quite low. Are your competent cells starting to get a bit old? They generally stay good for about a year at -80.
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I am currently making bacmid and consequent baculovirus using pDEST8, pFastBac and 438a vectors and recently switched to DH10EmBacY cells instead of DH10Bac due to the added YFP signal to monitor transfection, etc.
I was wondering if there is any reason for me to not use either of the two competent cells interchangeably to make bacmid DNA?
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DH10Bac and DH10EmBacY cells are both used for the generation of recombinant baculoviruses for protein expression in insect cells. However, they have different characteristics and uses.
DH10Bac cells are used in the Bac-to-Bac system developed by Thermo Fisher Scientific. They are used to generate recombinant bacmids containing your gene of interest in a baculovirus genome. These bacmids can then be transfected into insect cells to produce recombinant baculoviruses.
On the other hand, DH10EmBacY cells are part of the EMBacY system, an alternative system for generating recombinant baculoviruses. This system also involves creating recombinant bacmids, but the process and the specific cells used differ from the Bac-to-Bac system.
In general, you should follow the protocol and guidelines provided for each specific system and use the recommended cells for that system. Interchanging the cells may not produce the desired results, as each system has its own optimized conditions and requirements.
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I am using Escherichia coli MC1064 as competent cells to insert an empty vector. I use CD 3-434 Vector(https://www.arabidopsis.org/servlets/TairObject?type=stock&id=313445) . i used kanamycin as antibiotic and then i realized this is for screening in plant . i haven't any map of it. does anyone know what antibiotic should i use?
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Based on the information provided in the description of the CD3-434 vector on the Arabidopsis Stock Center website (https://www.arabidopsis.org/servlets/TairObject?type=stock&id=313445), it states that the vector contains the Kanamycin resistance gene, which confers resistance to Kanamycin in plants.
Since you are working with Escherichia coli (E. coli) MC1064 as competent cells, you would need to use an antibiotic that is effective for selection in bacteria. Kanamycin is commonly used as a selection antibiotic in E. coli, so you can continue using Kanamycin for your bacterial selection.
However, it's important to note that the CD3-434 vector was originally designed for use in plants, and the information available does not specify whether it has been tested or optimized for use in bacteria. Therefore, it's advisable to verify the compatibility and functionality of the CD3-434 vector in E. coli by consulting relevant literature or contacting the Arabidopsis Biological Resource Center (ABRC) for further information or guidance.
Further more:
In addition to PubMed, Google Scholar, and Scopus, you may find the following databases useful for your search:
1. Web of Science: Web of Science is a comprehensive research database that covers a wide range of scientific disciplines. It includes a vast collection of scholarly articles, conference proceedings, and citation information.
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Tailor your search terms to the specific research topic or keywords related to the CD3-434 vector and its compatibility in E. coli. Exploring multiple databases can broaden your search scope and increase the likelihood of finding relevant literature.
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i was cloned the lysin gene of bacteriophage in the pGEX 4t1 vector and transformed them in the BL21 Competent cell. competent cell was transformed and upon induction they are showing the induction of desired band of recombinant protein size in the sds page. but when for their purification purpose i was breaking the cell by using three times freeze thaw cycle at -80degree Celsius. after freeze thaw cycle i observed that my lysate become two viscous that it cannot got separated into supernant and pellet after centrifugation at 13000 rpm for 20minutes
please give me the reason why this happen with my clone?
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When the cells break open, the DNA is released. The chromosomal DNA, being a very large molecule, causes the viscosity. To break up the DNA into smaller pieces, you can add some DNase + Mg2+.
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optimized conditions for competent cell preparation
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To some degree it will depend upon the strain you are using. But a quick literature search will find you dozens of protocols.
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I made some competent cells, but using those cells for molecular cloning will produce a lot of wrong plasmids, and the colonies grow very few, so will competent cells affect molecular cloning to construct plasmids?
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According to my knowledge, plasmids have been constructed before the transformation process so those can not be altered during the transformation. You are getting the wrong plasmids, it might happen due to some kind of contamination. You are getting fewer colonies which means the competency of the cells is not good and you might allow cells to grow for long to get colonies and which causes contamination. Prolonged incubation to get colonies is not good practice. You can use alternate methods to prepare competent cells like ultra-competent cells or electroporation.
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I have been working on site-directed mutagenesis for a few months now, without success. I used a High-Fidelity DNA polymerase to amplify my vector with an insert and saw the target band after the PCR when I ran the product on a gel. I added 0.5µl DpnI to my 50 µL PCR reaction, and incubate at 37°C for an hour. Then, I used 25ul of the PCR product for transformation to 100µL competent XL1-blue cells. After overnight incubation at 37°C, I had got no mutant colonies. The positive control had a lot of colonies and the negative control (without transformation) had no colony, so I think my competent cells work well.
Additionally, I had previously done this work and had managed to get colonies but this time around I am not getting anything at all.
Anyone with expertise on this, may I please get some assistance? Thank you so much.
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1) was the band of the PCR at the expected size? Since sometimes, if your primers are not really specific you can amplify smaller fragments of the vector that miss some parts essential for vector replication or antibiotic resistance and
2) Did you try to repeat the trasformation with lower amout of PCR? 25ul are a lot, some times also too much DNA can be toxic for the cells and also the buffers of PCR and dpnI can affect the trasfromation. In general, if the band is visible in agarose gel 1-2ul are more than enough.
3) can you share with us the sequence of the primers that you used for perform the PCR, hust to do a double check of the lenght and orientation of the overlapping regions.
However for the future i would like to suggest you to use the PIPE cloning approach, which do not require any specific kit, but just an high fidelity taq polimerase and thermo MACh1 competent cells.
you can find more information about it on the following paper
of in the following links
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good luck
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I am working with two plasmids that both call for Stabl3 competent cells for growth in bacteria, how can I find out if these plasmids would grow in NEB 10 competent cells? They did not transform with DH5a.
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It depends on what kind of plasmid you are working with. Stabl3 cells are particularly good for plasmids with unstable sites or that are prone to recombination such as viral vectors. They minimize cleavage and recombination so that you get a higher percentage of intact DNA. If that's the case with your plasmids, you may struggle to produce good product in a non-stable cell line. If not, any strain for DNA production should work as long as it can accommodate the plasmid size. The best way to find out would be to just test it.
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I used the following procedure to transform DH10Bac E. coli.
I wanted to know why my experiment failed.
Exp. Procedure:
1. Thaw 25ul DH10Bac competent cells on the ice for each transformation.
2. Add pFastBac™ construct: 1 ng (1 μL) plasmid DNA to the DH10Ba competent cells and mix gently.
3. Incubate cells on ice for 30 minutes.
4. Heat-shock the cells for 45 seconds at 70°C without shaking.
5. Immediately transfer the tubes to ice and chill for 3 minutes.
6. Add 900 μL of room temperature LB.
7. Shake tubes at 37°C at 150 rpm for 4 hours.
8. Prepare 10-fold serial dilutions of the cells with LB Medium. Plate 100 μL of each dilution on an LB agar plate containing (50 μg/mL kanamycin, 7 μg/mL gentamycin, 10 μg/mL tetracycline, 100 μg/mL X-gel, 40 μg/mL IPTG)
9. Incubate plates for 48 hours at 37°C.
10. Pick white colonies for analysis.
11. Analyzing recombinant bacmid DNA by colony PCR.
As you can see, the result of DNA electrophoresis I can't detect the bacmid.
The primer I used tends to self-anneal.
Primer sequence:
pUC/M13 Forward
5′-CCCAGTCACGACGTTGTAAAACG-3′ pUC/M13
pUC/M13 Reverse
5′-AGCGGATAACAATTTCACACAGG-3′
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It is not the transformation that is a failure !!
On the contrary it is a success !!!
Indeed you get blue colonies or white bacteria. So transformation is OKay !
The problem therefore comes from before the bacteria transformation (ligation ...)
or come from after the bacteria transformation (colony-PCR ...)
To start, follow Sofiane Benyamina's excellent advice : Did you test your primers on the pure plasmid beforehand ?
Then I find that it has few white colonies compared to the number of blue colonies.
But this may be normal, it all depends on what you did before this transformation step:
What did you do before transforming the DH10Bac E. coli ?
Did you use the pFastBac™ vector as is, alone ?
or did you do a ligation beforehand, with this pFastBac™ vector and an insert ?
If it is a ligation you did before transformation, then details should be given concerning the type of insert and how did you prepare the vector ?
The insert : is it a PCR product, a DNA fragments, something else ...???
What are the expected sizes of the inserts, etc...
The vector : how did you prepare the vector ?
Did you do a double digestion with 2 different restriction enzyme? Did you purify the vector after the digestion, in order to remove the small fragment from the multiple cloning site ? It must be done to prevent from religating itself and with the vector, this would explain the high proportion of blue colonies...
If we are in the hypothesis of a ligation with a PCR product : have you properly purified your PCR product before the ligation ? This is to remove the not incorporated primer-dimers that could compete with the insert (the PCR amplicon) for ligation within the vector....
The colony-PCR can be tricky. When the colony is taken from the Petri dish, care should be taken not to poke into the agar. The agar contains taq-polymerase inhibitors...
In summary, problems can arise at each step. That's why you need to give more details ...
Good luck !
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I made tranformation from obligate anaerobic clostridium but it always fail. I use 20 µL of competent cell and 2 of µL plasmid (concentration is 128.3 ng/µL) with electropration protocol as: V = 700 volts ; R= 200 ohm ; C = 25 µF ; Cuvette = 0.1 cm
1. The bacteria is not growing in the plate.
2. Sometimes the bacteria growing but the gene could not inserted only antibiotic resistance band appear.
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Is there homology on your plasmid with some locus of the host that would permit recombination?
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I'm trying to knock out a non coding sRNA gene from E. coli genome by homologus recombination based method. I'm using Kan cassette and pSIM6 recombination system. I grow the pSIM6 strain at 30 degree till 0.5-0.6 OD and then transferred to 42 degree water bath with continuous shaking for 15mins. After giving induction, I transfer the cells in slurry ice with continuous swirling for 10 mins. Then the electro competent cells are made by giving two consecutive washing with nuclease free water. The generated DNA cassette is electroporated by using 0.2 cm cuvettes with 2.5kV voltage for 5.5ms. After the transformation, I grow the cells at 30 degree. I get 5-6 colonies. However, after doing colony PCR with the primers for the sRNA gene, I always get band in its proper size, which implies that the mutation did not occur. I have done several times, still not getting positive result. Please suggest how to troubleshoot.
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Consider that the colonies on the plates may be mixtures of wt and mutant. So if even some cells are wt you will get the wt band after PCR. It might be better to look specifically for the mutant signal.
You might try to restreak your 5-6 colonies on kanamycin plates and test 1 or 2 individual colonies from each of those.
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Dear colleagues,
I have a small question about competent cells protocol
Could I use the protocol to make competent cells
E. coli for S. aureus ?
If you have further suggestions or protocols
(the one that you already did well)
please share with me
Thank you so much ,
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Hopefully someone can give you more specifics related to S. aureus but -
Probably not. Gram positive bacteria typically require special treatment to weaken their cell walls before they'll take up plasmids by electroporation. They also usually require a media with high osmolarity (often achieved with something non-ionic like a sugar) to protect them from rupture post-electroporation.
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How to prepare electrocompetent cell from Staphylococcus aureus XN108?
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Thank you sir for your efficient and quick answer. I'm very grateful.
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Dear Dominique and Manuele, thanks to both of you for your valuable opinion. I appreciate.
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I'd like to know What is the minimum and maximum amount of Plasmid DNA that can be used for transformation of Bacteria ?
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In order to answer your question, some terms need to be better defined. First you need to specify what volume of cells in your transformation. For a typically transformation of 100ul of competent cells is not going to give the same answer as a scaled up transformation with more cells. Also what is your criteria for transformation?
Assuming a normal amount of competent cells, what you would see is a curve if you plot transformants per amount of DNA used starting from the lowest amount tested, until you hit the saturation plateau. The minimum will be 1 molecule, the probability of transformation is low but not zero. Even at sub-ng amounts of DNA you will still get lots of transformants.
Saturation is hit probably in the 10-50 ng of typical cloning plasmid and adding more DNA is likely to only slightly increase number of transformants above this. But this isn't really a maximum, just approaching it. At some point though you may start getting into inhibition with even higher levels of DNA.
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I gave overnight culture from my DH5alpha glycerol stock in 5 ml LB and 5 ml LB+Kanamycin as control.There was no growth in the antibiotic added LB the next day(validating that my stock isn't contaminated with a antibiotic resistant plasmid).The next day I gave 1% subculture from the 5 ml LB culture to 100 ml media and prepared competent cells using the traditional CaCl2 MgCl2 method and also performed transformation with a kanamycin resistant plasmid to test their efficiency.The problematic thing is that I got four positive colonies in my control plate(Kanamycin agar plate where just the DH5alpha competent cells without any plasmid) was plated.It is very difficult for me to trace the contamination because I did each of the step in laminar hood and also near flame and I had autoclaved everything from tips,glycerol,media,CaCl2,MgCl2 before using.Can anyone tell what might be the possible source of contamination in this case?
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Please, may I know whether this problem was later solved and what was the solution? Bcos I currently have the same problem with my cloning. Thanks
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I have DH10b, which I have supplied as a ready-made chemical competent. Can I make this bacteria electrocompetent after culturing it on LB agar (without antibiotic)? Or do I need to make it chemically competent again?
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Absolutely Yes!
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transformation after ligation is nessesary step to get desired product in large amount.
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I think you mean why the rate of successful bacterial transformation is different from the ligation product and normal plasmid, (and the ligation product transformation rate is much less).
The reason is that the number of plasmids that perform successful ligation is low, and in addition, the ligation product is much more sensitive to endonucleases (because of DNA nick ), so the result of ligation process is a much smaller amount of healthy and replicable plasmid is available to the bacteria. Then the transformation result is a smaller number of colonies compared to transformation with a pure and healthy plasmid.
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I am facing problems with NEB Stable Cells. The original stock has an expiry date of 2020 but we thought the glycerol stocks would be fine. We are not able to clone and transform in NEB competent cells. For control we also cloned in DH5-alpha, and we were able to clone in that.
Specifically, our NEB Stable cells have lost their re-growth potential. They form few colonies in the first plate but when confirmed for positive clones and streaked on second plate they show no growth. Can somebody help?
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There is nothing that should stop the strain from growing. The limited shelf life is only for efficient competence. But once you have streaked it out, then the strain should grow fine. So I am not sure why you would be having problems unless you have some sort of phage contamination or similar.
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I have been trying to amplify NEB 5-alpha F'Iq Competent E. coli for my phage display library and therefore need a high transformation efficiency. The commercial product has a TE of 10^9, but I have tried the chemical transformation cells amplification protocol (using Inoue method) and also electrocompetent method (using ice cold 10% glycerol) and got only 10^5 TE resp. Please help me troubleshoot or suggest some ideas if anybody is familiar with the strain. Thank you.
NEB product no: C2992I
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it is quite difficult, and almost an art, to get very high efficiency competent cells. You need to be very meticulous in every step of the procedure. For routine work we always used homemade cells and they are fine, but if really high efficiency is needed, we always purchased commercial competent cells. We were never able to get them as good as the "professionals" could do. Although it should be not that hard to get 10e6 or 10e7, we never got 10e9. This is true for really any standard cloning strain, nothing magical about the NEB strain.
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I have performed heat shock chemical transformation of pCDNA3.1 vector containing gene of interest as insert into DH5 alpha strain. Transformant colonies were observed to have grown up in Ampicillin containing LB plate.
The size of the plasmid of interest is 6.7kb, but on running gel after extraction, i always observed a band of more than 10kp using undigested sample while the R.E digested sample is always showed blank (not visible).
Please, I need an expert opinion, could it be a compatibility issue between the pCDNA3.1 and DH5 alpha cells?
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Kristin M. Adams Yes, I have run my plasmid map on Snapgene viewer to select RE sites. i repeatedly used different enzymes with R sites on the map but to avail.
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I am carrying out a CRISPR knockout using PX458 plasmid with the following information
GROWTH IN BACTERIA
  • Ampicillin, 100 μg/mLBacterial Resistance(s)
  • 37°CGrowth Temperature
  • Stbl3Growth Strain(s)
My question: After cloning in the sgRNA into this plasmid, can I transform the plasmid using competent DH5 alpha considering the fact that the growth in bacteria is Stbl3 growth strain?
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if your plasmid has no large repeat (like LTR from retrovirus) you can certainly transform dh5... the stbl are used for unstable plasmid that can recombine... just check that after purification your plasmid is still the same...
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Hi everyone.
I am working on making RNA probes for in situ hybridization, and am at the moment about to transform some competent cells. However, I just realized that the concentration of the vector that I am using (Zero-Blunt TOPO vector) is only 10 ng/ul, where I can use up to 1000 ng for the ligation in the protocol that I am following. I am not following the TOPO protocol because I want to do restriction digestion, where the TOPO vector protocol assumes that you are using the blunt ends. I tried doing restriction digestion on the TOPO vector to get the ends sticky and run it on gel, but I got no band up, supposedly because I only used 20 ng. The problem is that I guess I will have to use pretty big volumes to get a visible band on the gel (which I will need to cut out afterwards), but the amount that I have of the TOPO vector is not very large. Also, the TOPO vector I am using is already blunt-ended, so I was wondering if it is possible to first make it circular and than do some transformation on competent cells just to get more vector?
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The T4 DNA ligase should ideally work on blunt ends as well, but I have never done it. However, you can probably give it a try. Maybe try using around 10ng of your linearized vector in a 5ul ligation mix and then transform the whole thing. I hope it helps.
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I am trying to prepare a construct using pCFD6 plasmid as the vector and 2 overlapping sequences as the insert. As per the protocol, I performed the Gibson assembly reaction in a thermocycler. Is this essential to purify this assembled product and then transform it into the competent cell?
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Thanks Hanna Alalam and Xianxian Dong for your useful response. Previously I tried using dilution. That time I got only few ( 1 or 2 colony) per plate. This time I distributed equally the total reaction volume (20 uL) in 50 uL and 70 uL competent cells. This time I got around 20-30 colonies per plate.
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I have used C41(de3) and transformed my plasmid. The colonies were stored in 4°C. To use the refrigerated cells for induction, am I to modify my method or follow the same protocol with 37° incubation for 1 hour, then 30 minutes cooling in 15°C, IPTG addition and overnight incubation.
Please if you could help
Thank you
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Dear Prianshika Sen, what I understood is you want to over-express your protein of interest at 15°C. I would suggest the following protocol:
1. Over-night primary culture (In LB medium) using your refrigerated stock
2. Add primary culture to a new higher volume media content (Secondary culture)
3. Keep the culture in a shaking incubator (RPM 150-160 @ 37°C, 3-3.5hrs; usually, by 3.5hrs OD600 of the culture will reach 0.6)
4. Keep the culture @ 15°C for 30-45 min
5. Induction with IPTG
6. Keep the culture in a shaking incubator (RPM 100-120 @ 15°C, 12-16hrs)
7. Harvest your cells
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I want to make my own BL21 CodonPlus (DE3)-RIPL chemically competent cells, but I don't know whether the protocol is the same as the other strains (BL21 or BL21 (DE3)). Who can provide a detailed protocol for me?
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Calcium mediated transfection tends to be best for eukaryotic cells. You could always try lithium acetate.
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I am using INVSC1, which is S. cerevisiae with the genotype....
INVSc1: MATa his3D1 leu2 trp1-289 ura3-52 MAT his3D1 leu2 trp1-289 ura3-52
....I have cloned two genes of interest, one in psf-tefi-tryp1 and the second in pYES2. The expression vectors contain marker genes so that colonies grown in media lacking tryptophan and uracil should contain both.
I currently have a INVSc1 cell line that contains psf-tefi-tryp1 and I am wondering if I can proceed to make competent cells from here. Or should I start with an untransformed cells, transform using both plasmids, and plate on (-tryptophan , -uracil) media?
I've read that plasmid compatibility should not be an issue in yeast, but should I be aware of anything in particular?
Thank you!
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Either is fine. Transforming the strain already harboring plasmid one should be simpler, however, this comes with the caveat that if that particular clone carrying the plasmid is different/ or mutated if will miss up your results. If you double transform you can run your experiment with 3 different transformants to make sure your results are not clone specific. This depends on your particular experiments. Plasmid incompatibility should not be major issue as long as the selection markers are different. Moreover, if your plasmids are 2micron it is even less of an issue sine these plasmids are maintained at higher copy numbers.
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Hi, recently I tried to express my genes (from plant) into Rosetta De3 pLysS using this protocol:
1. 1% overnight culture into a new media + antibiotic, incubated to grow until OD600= 0.5
2. Induce at 19°C, overnight with 0.1mM, 0.3mM and 0.5mM IPTG.
3. On the next day, 1ml culture was taken and spin to separate pellet and supernatant. Supernatant is discarded as protein is intracellular (discovered before during expression using different competent cells)
4. Pellet was resuspend in 1ml of lysis buffer (KH2P04, K2HPO4, NACl, KCl, glycerol, Triton X-100 and H2O, pH 7.8) by vortex.
5. Resuspend pellet was sonicated for 5 min (30s on, 30s off) then spin to separate soluble protein (in supernatant) an insoluble protein (in pellet)
5. Pellet was resuspend with 8M urea
6. SDS PAGE analysis was conducted upon addition of sample buffers
From the gel, there is no prominent band at the appropriate size for my genes at all. Why does this happen?
Thank you in advance for answering
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Dear Fatin,
Unfortunately, you did not give any information about your constructs. If you cannot express any protein, it might just be that the construct is not properly designed.
When you write "genes", do you mean cDNA?
What plasmid did you use?
What kind of affinity tag do you use and spacer sequence is used between protein of interest and affinity tag?
Did you sequence your construct after cloning?
Kind regards,
Sebastian
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I am having difficulty in obtaining transformants, the positive control plasmid pKLAC2(malE) was prepared for transformation and only small colonies were observed. These did not secrete malE protein. I am worried that my competent cells are bad and I am reaching out for any tips, tricks and advice that you might have for me to determine if they are good or not. I will try to summarize my concerns, observations and questions. Q1: Are transformants on YCB (yeast carbon base) + acetamide (sole nitrogen source) expected to grow similarly to K. lactis on rich media? Even when I plate a very small volume of the transformation reaction, I get >300 small (0.1 mm) colonies after 24 hours. They proceed to grow slowly and I am aware that untransformed cells have weak acetamide degrading ability. I have subcultured a few select colonies and they grow fine on YCB + acetamide, albeit half as well as colonies growing on rich PDA media. They must not be transformants? Q2: Untransformed cells appear to be growing better than they should be....could it be possible that impurities in agar could be supplying nitrogen for growth? Small colonies after 24 hours can't be normal but I can't determine what is weakening the selection method. Or selection by acetamide is not as selective as I thought. Q3: After adding the transformation reagent to competent K. lactis cells, they remain in small (0.1 - 0.4 mm) visible clumps and aggregate. Is this normal? The solution never quite reaches a uniform turbidity, even after the incubation, heat shock and recovery steps. Q4: Unrelated question, galactose wouldn't go bad would it? I have a bottle from at least 30 years ago. I know that glucose has an indefinite shelf life (pretty much) but I'm not certain if "bad" galactose would explain the absence of protein expression.
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You should compare colony numbers between your selection plate and a rich media plate inoculated with the same volume from the transfection. If numbers are similar your transfection has failed.
Depending on your rich media you should find that there is always a slight reduction in growth on poorer media.
Any of your reagents could be contaminated. Could even be nitrogen fixing bacteria if any of your powders got damp.
If kept dry the galactose should be fine if not exposed to sun light.
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I just did my molecular cloning these days. But I got failed after I transformed the plasmid into competent cells and did the colony PCR and inoculation along with it. the insert is 1.5 kb and the plasmid is pET28a 5.3kb.
Actually, I have done this twice. The first time I got very blurring and light bands. I thought it may be because the TAE buffer was worn-out or the ligation buffer was not fresh anymore and the insert somehow did not get into the plasmid rightly.
However, after I used the newly bought ligation buffer, I still got the same result in colony PCR and electrophoresis.
Does anybody meet this situation and know what exactly happened?
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Yes, that is right, usually, you need more than 5 bp or more to achieve optimum cutting using a restriction enzyme. I also suggest you to do the ligation at 4C overnight, it gives me a better result than room temperature
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Guys, I just got a problem with my colony PCR. The DNA template I used is ~1.3kbp and it's cDNA in a plasmid with AmpR as my supervisor said. (There is not enough of this DNA template so I want to replicate the plasmid to get more)
So I just transformed the DNA template with about ~29ng into 100 uL Top10 competent cells.
Then I spare it on an Amp+ LB plate and incubated the plate overnight.
On the second day, I got a lot of colonies. I performed a colony PCR with a positive control (from the exact same tube of the template for transformation). I picked the colony by using 10 ul pipette tips to touch and swirling a little bit and placing them into corresponding tubes. And then I pipetted the tips in the pre-mix added in the tube and swirled a bit.
But all I got is positive control and there is no band in the 18 colony sample lanes.
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Shibo Bai the number of cycles are enough. true you just need to confirm you placed the colony properly in to the tube. better to put the colony first with sterile toothpick or pipette tip in to the bottom of the tube, then add your master mixture.
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I am facing a MACH1 transformation related problem. My plasmid is PCMU-GAr which contains spectinomycin resistant gene. I've transformed the same plasmid in MACH1 and am getting the lawn of MACH1 after incubating the transformed cells on LB plates supplemented with 100ug/ml spectinomycin for 16 hr at 37 degrees. No plasmids were obtained later on. When I streaked MACH1 competent cell (untransformed) on LB plate supplemented with spectinomycin (100ug/ml), astonishingly the MACH1 cells showed growth. I am not sure about the fact if MACH1 is only able to do transformation when selection is ampicillin only. How to fix this problem?
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Michael J. Benedik thank you for your suggestion. I will try using DH5alpha.
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I have a plasmid with a concentration of 12858 ng/μl then I did serial 1/10 dilutions. I used my leas concentration DNA(1.28*10^-6 μg/μl). Then I took 5μl of that and added it to a tube with 25μl of competent cells. After transformation, I added 500 μl S.O.C. Total vol 530μl.
Then I did serial 1/10 dilutions to 5 tubes with a total vol of 200μl. I add 180μl S.O.C to all 5 tubes and then I add 20μl of 530μl into the first tube and then I took 20μl of that and adding to the second. I did the same until the last tub. Then I spread 50 μl of the last three dilutions of the transformation mixture onto LB plates with antibiotics. The day after I count the number of colonies. The last tub gives 300 colonies, fourth tube1071 colonies grow.
Now I should know the mass of DNA to find TE.
could you please help me? I am confused and I don't know what should I do.
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Thanks for the answer.
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Hello all,
I have been trying to transform my plasmid ~10kb in comptent E.coli DH5a cells for the past one and a half months by heat shock method but haven't been able to get a single colony. I am doing transformation by the standard protocol i.e., by thawing competent cells (50ul) on ice in microfuge tubes, adding around 5ng of plasmid, incubating on ice for 30 mins and then giving a heat shock at 42°C for 90 seconds in a water bath (also tried giving heat shock for 40 seconds) and then putting cells on ice for 5 mins again. After that I added pre-warmed 1ml LB and kept them for 1hr in shaking incubator. Then spreading it on amp+ plates with a conc. of 100ug/ml.
I can't understand what am I doing wrong. I always prepare fresh ampicillin stock for my plates and made competents cells many times by CaCl2 method but never have been able to get colonies. Can someone guide me regarding this?
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Thankyou all for your valuable suggestions. I tried electroporation and it worked.
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Ok, so long story short. I am having trouble cloning shRNA oligos into the pLKO.3G vector. I am doing a sequential digest with EcoRI-HF and PacI and then column purifying the vector. Analysis on a 1% gel shows the vector is linearizing, therefore I'm not sure why my sequencing readouts are bad.
Annealing protocol is as follows:
1. Incubate at 37C for 30 minutes
2. Incubate at 95C for 5 minutes using heat block 
3. After 5 minutes, remove from heat source, let cool at RT on bench top. This is now your annealed oligos 
4. Make two dilutions of annealed oligos 1:10 and 1:100 for each shRNA construct 
Ligation reactions are incubated at RT for 10 minutes, followed by 37C for 10 minutes, and 65C for 10 minutes.
I then take 4 uL of my ligation reactions into 30uL Stbl3 competent cells ---> Heat shock protocol--> add ligation + stbl3 mix on Amp LB plate and left to incubate overnight.
I am afraid that maybe my vector is self-ligating which is why my sequencing read-outs are bad. I am adding SAP to my sample after digesting with PacI. I let the sample incubate for another 30 min at 37C water bath, followed by 5 minutes at 65C.
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Congrats! So glad I could help! :)
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Recently I am trying to ligate a small fragment (〜300bp) to a 7K vector, but failed to get any transformants on plate.
I have checked competent cells by transforming control plasmids, DNA size by sequencing and size-checked on agarose gel after digestion. I also checked the ligation kit by doing positive control. However nothing went wrong.
Could it be possible that the issue lies on ligation condition ?(I did 4dg.overnight)
Perhaps low temperature is difficult for such bp difference of insert and vector??
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Hi,
In the positive control, ligation was possible and the bacteria grew, so there appears to be no problem with the material used.
The size difference between the vector and insert is not a problem at all.
The fact that no colonies were obtained at all indicates that there is no contamination from self-ligation, uncut vectors, etc. Therefore, the restriction enzyme processing activity of the vectors and inserts is sufficient.
We propose that the combination of restriction enzymes used in the construction and the use of drug resistance genes may not be appropriate.
Detailed construction procedures, including vector maps and sequence data, would assist in troubleshooting. If information confidentiality is needed, gene sequences can be replaced by NNNN.
If the inserts are repeat sequences that are difficult to amplify in the bacteria, it is unlikely that resistant colonies will appear at all, as abnormal plasmids generally appear.
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I prepared a glucose solution (4 g glucose in 20 ml water) for making bacteria competent cells and kept it in fridge but it is solidified. I have never faced such a situation. Is it a normal phenomena?
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Solubility of glucose in water is temperature dependent, at higher temp you can dissolve more glucose; by heating you can get up to 40% glucose concentration But if you cool this solution, glucose will start crystallizing.
If your solution was sealed (and water did not evaporate), you can warm this solution prior to using it without any ill-effects.
It isn’t clear from your statement but I assume you are adding 4gm glucose to water and making up the volume of aqueous solution to 20 ml to get 20% concentration.
Best,
Alam
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Hi everyone,
I have to do qPCR to quantify microorganisms with the nirS gene but I have a problem with the standard. Indeed, due to a material problem I lost all my competent cells containing the plasmid with my standard nirS gene.
I was wondering what was the best solution in the emergency: Use an externe enterprise to synthesize an oligo corresponding to the sequence of the gene, order the reference bacterium for this gene and do the extraction and recovery of the gene...? Thank you for your help
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Based on your experimental design, I would acquire a micoorganism that contains the nirS gene for use as a positive control. Performing qPCR using nucleotide extractions from a well-known nirS+ organism would be a better positive control than a plasmid containing the nirS ORF anyways.
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I am looking for protein expression which can be induced by IPTG in E.coli background which does not have an inherent beta-galactosidase activity.
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L4440 cells can be used
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I prepare Pichia competent for electroporation. I culture until OD600 of cell culture upto 1.3-1.5 after that I wash it by cold water and cold 1M Sorbitol and resuspend in 1ml of 1M Sorbitol.
I have a some question...
1. I culture 500 ml of yeast, in last step all of cell pellet was resuspended by 1ml of 1M Sorbitol. It's very viscously. I am not sure it's normal?
2. My transformation result is bad. In selective plate (YPD + 0.5 mg/ml Geneticin), There are low number colony and they have no construct.
3. To conform, my competent cell are not break, I spread my competent cell on YPD plate, It can grow well.
From all of these, I am not sure I miss in any step. If you have a suggestion. Please tell me about that
Thank you
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Hi, I am now doing the transformation of P. pastoris and I have the same problem with you.
I wonder if the viscosity (Too high cell density) is the main reason of failure of electroporation.
I used pGAPZ alpha vector and followed the protocol by Invitrogen.
Concentrate 500 mL of cells to 1.5 mL was too viscous.
However, some academic papers stated that the cells were prepared from 50 mL of culture.
May I have any suggestions?
Thank you.
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We have 3 plasmids with 10+ inserts each, that we are trying to propagate. As a convention, DH5a was used for cloning purposes of the first plasmid. The resultant plasmid was verified with insert specific sequences and the problem was that in addition to the target size bands, multiple other bands of greater and smaller sizes were seen.
next, we used BL21 as a cloning strain, and even though this is a strain used for protein expression, the issue of multiple bands was resolved.
This lead us to believe that bl21 was the better choice to clone these plasmids. But the actual problem rose when we tried to clone the rest of the 2 plasmids in bl21 and the same issue with multiple bands after PCR is observed.
What I want to know is,
1)why is this phenomenon occurring? is it related to the competent cells I am using?
2)If I use a fresh strain for making competent cells of either of the strains, can the issue be resolved?
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Are these multiple inserts homologous to each other so that you might be seeing recombination events that are changing the number of inserts in a plasmid? Although I would expect this to occur more frequently in BL21 since that strain is recombination proficient (and DH5 is deficient).
You might also just retransform your original plasmid stock (at low concentration) into DH5 again and see if the individual transformants are behaving better. It might not be a strain thing but it might be just that you did a clean transformation into BL21.
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Hello everyone, I am trying to overexpress a protein into BL21DE3 pLysS and have successfully cloned the gene in DH5α and checked the plasmid via double digestion to check the fallout. The concentration of the plasmid is 150ng/ul and I have diluted it two folds to reduce the concentration to half i.e 75 ng/ul. I am using 1.5ul of the diluted plasmid in 50ul of competent cells and plating on Cat-Kan LBA plates having 34ug/ml and 50ug/ml concentration of antibiotic. However, I am unable to see any colonies on the plates. kindly suggest what could be done to get the transformation done.
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Thanks everyone for your suggestions!
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I am doing a site directed mutagenesis. I follow three step protocol, where first I do a PCR protocol followed by a dpn digestion and finally the transformation in the DH5-alpha competent cells.
1. PCR: I use NEB Q5 polymerase, 10 ng DNA template and do a gradient PCR for 25 cycles (I did 18 cycles and 35 cycles as well) and 8 mins extension. after electrophoresis, I only see primer dimers bands and no desired product.
I directly add DPN to the pcr product and incubate it for 3 hours at 37 degree (also did overnight)
then I transform along with a positive control. I get numerous colonies in positive control but no colonies in the mutant plates.
My template is of 8.7 kb.
please help!
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I think the problem is about PCR Since there is no expected product in gel. Re-design the primers may be a reasonable solution.
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I'm using Stellar Chemically competent cells to express GEVI plasmids. We grow the transformed cells on regular Amp plates, then pick individual colonies to grow in 2XYT media. After their growth, when we spin them down some of the wells are purple. This isn't an uncommon occurrence at this point. We're still able to extract DNA it seems, but we don't know why some of the bacteria are turning purple? We thought possibly it could have something to do with the red and green fluorophores in the plasmid, but that doesn't seem like it would make sense, seeing as they're purple under regular light. Any ideas why this may be happening?
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I have seen red pellets of E. coli transformed with a vector containing mCherry fluorescent protein in my lab. In our case was because the promoter that we cloned was recognized by the bacteria. In any case, all the bacteria in our pellets were red, but yours seems to have a white part. Try to separate your bacteria in solid media and culture both, the purple and white colonies, to see if both harbors your plasmid or only one of them.
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I know that CCMB80 buffer contains Calcium(80mM) and is Manganese-Based, but what is the principle behind it so it is used in competent cell making?
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This is a modification of the Hanahan's protocol mostly used for making commercial competent cells with high transformation efficiency. Douglas Hanahan's 1983 paper meticulously examined factors affecting transformation efficiency and the buffer is based on it. Find the ref below:
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We use DH5 alpha E. coli for transformation and all of our vectors are only amp resistant. We had prepared competent cell and while checking their competency efficiency, there was a lawn of bacterial overgrowth on amp+ plate. How are the untransformed cells growing on amp+ plate with such vigorous growth? We have used both amp and E. coli stock from 3 other labs (Where it is working fine), we still get the same result. This thing is repeatedly happening. Can someone help with this? Our entire work is stuck because of this.
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In addition to the answer that Thomas J Raub provided, there is something very weird about the plate in the picture. Either the plate was very fresh and wet and the condensation on the plate surface was moving the cells around, or you are seeing some contamination by a very motile bacterium that is not actually E. coli. So maybe you have contamination in some common reagent such as what you are using to make the cells competent.
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I am working with an engineered (Fusion) gene. It was provided in the cloning vector pUC57 by the company after synthesis i.e., a very high copy number vector. Gene is toxic for E. coli as it contains some part of ColE3, so I’m trying to clone it in Pichia pastoris. The expression vector we are using is pPICZαA. Our gene already has the kex2 signal cleavage site and His-tag for purification, therefore, we want to use the XhoI restriction enzyme so that it can remove the kex2 signal cleavage site already present in the vector. Now, as the MCS of pPICZαA has 2 XhoI sites, we are doing sequential digestion firstly digesting it with KpnI (KpnI site is present just beside XhoI’s site, so it disrupts XhoI site), then with XhoI. Likewise, the company has given restriction sites for XhoI and KpnI for separating Insert from the pUC57.
pUC57-Amp: 2,700bp
Insert: 2,328bp
pPICZαA: 3,600bp
XhoI- ThermoFisher FD Enzyme
KpnI- ThermoFisher FD Enzyme
T4Ligase: Thermo
Problems:1) I have tried to transform it in T10 and XL1Blue competent cells, but transformation only occurs in XL1Blue and its growth is very slow on both agar and broth (Both competent cells are fine as I’have tried transformation with another gene).2)Cells do not revive from glycerol stock (15% glycerol). 3)After sequential digestion of pPICZαA with KpnI, then with XhoI and double digestion of insert with KpnI & XhoI, I have tried ligation in the following conditions: a)In the ratio 3:1, 5:1, and 7:1.b)At room temperature for 2 hours, at 16 ºC for 4 hours, and at 4ºC for 16 hours. But I’m getting false colonies (10-12 colonies). So what could be the reason?
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Xi Jiang Yes you were right, the problem of false colonies after ligation was due to XhoI site being digested after KpnI. I tried another enzyme NotI instead of KpnI and ligated at ratios 1:1 and 1:2, ligation was succesful.
Thanks for the suggestion.
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I have been working on bacterial transformation by heat shock method. For preparing chemically competent cells, I prepare 0.1 M Calcium chloride, 0.1 M Magnesium Chloride and 15% glycerol in CaCl2 solutions every time. I want to inquire if these solutions can be saved and for how long?
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If you take care of avoiding microbial contamination, they can be kept forever, preferably in the refrigerator, but this is because they need to be cold when you want to use them to prepare competent cells.
Avoid autoclaving glycerol and sugars together with divalent cations (I am not sure about glycerol, but certainly for sugars, which may form toxic byproducts like furfural).
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I'm having problem with silky thing in my Agrobacterium LBA4404 culture. I know these silky things are dead cells caused by stress, so i tried different media; LBB, YEM, YEP, however, they still produce those silky thing.
For the latest trial, I tried to increase aeration by growing in 500ml conical flask with only 30ml of 1/2 salt LBB (tryptone 10g/L, yeast extract 5g/L, NaCl 5g/L) adjusted to pH 7.0 and shaked at 220rpm 28 degree C but it still produced silky thing after 24 hours (those silky things were already slightly visible after overnight culture). The picture shows the culture in the above 1/2 salt LBB medium after 28 hrs of culturing.
Any opinions/ideas are welcomed and appreciated.
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It is normal. Almost all bacteria do this.
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I was clearing a cabinet and I have found this plate from November 2021.
It is LB Agar with Neb10 competent cells.
The contaminants seem bright orange.
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Totally agreed!
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Hi, Ive prepared my ligation mix for sticky end ligation in the ratio of 1:3, 1:6 and 1:9 calculated using NEBio Calculator with NEB T7 DNA Ligase at 25°C for 20 minutes then transformed them in OneShot TOP10 E coli. The transformation yield colonies however upon double digestion at 37°C for 2 hours, most of them only exhibit one band at 5kb~ indicating the vector (pET28 a(+)) without any band for insert at supposedly 1.3kb. Unfortunately, for those with insert band, there is no band for vector (or maybe it is too faint?). I dont think that it is possible for only the insert to be transformed in the competent cells without the vector as insert + vector = plasmid, but why is the vector band seems undetectable? I havent digest the ligation mix yet but if the ligation is successful, what is the problem then? If they were not, please advise on how to increase the ligation efficiency. Thank you in advance :D
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Could you post a picture? Something does seem very odd if you have colonies that only have a 1.3 kb insert but no vector band (since the insert should not be able to replicate).
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Hello everyone!
Recently, I was confused by E.coli electroproration. My goal is to transform the recombinant fragments and pGRB-SgRNA plasmids into competent cells containing pRED-Cas9 by electrotransformation to achieve knockout of related genes.
I made competent cells according to the instructions above of https://barricklab.org/twiki/bin/view/Lab/ProtocolsElectrocompetentCells (100ul 1m IPTG was added to 100mL medium to express Cas9 protein when the cells grew to OD600 was 0.4-0.6). Usually, the concentration of the fragment I added to the tube was about 200 ng, and the concentration of plasmid was about 100 ng. The pulse was released twice by BIO-RAD electrotometer in EcI mode, and then resuscitated at 800ul LB 30 ℃ for 2 hours, then coated on the double-resistant plate. The above process was proceeded on the ice.
However, after transformation, it grows very slowly on the screening plate (usually 18-24 hours, and it often takes 24-48 hours recently), and the final colonies are all wrong by PCR identification.
Researchers are welcomed to discuss the causes of this phenomenon.
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Hi,
I make competent cells according to the instructions:
Making Electrocompetent E. coli Cells (large batch)
  1. Grow an overnight culture of each strain in 2xyt culture medium without antibiotics (16-18 hours).
  2. Make 2xyt culture medium in a 500 ml flask for each strain.
  3. Inoculate fresh 2xyt with 5 mL (culture grown overnight). This inoculates is 1%.
  4. Grow the cells for approximately 2-3 hours, until they reach the mid-exponential phase. The an OD600 nm: 0.2 - 0.25. Make sure it doesn't go beyond that.
  5. ~30 min before you plan to prepare your cells, set the centrifuge to 4C.
  6. Transfer the cells to 2x 250 ml tubes. PS: You can use 50 Falcon conical tubes. If you decide to use that, divide the glycerol ratio into the next steps, and at the end add the pellet only into a falcon.
  7. Pellet the cells by centrifugation for 20 minutes at 4,000 RPM, 4C. Remove promptly and pour off supernatant.
  8. Wash by adding 50 ml of chilled 10% glycerol to each tube, then vortexing kindly to resuspend the pellet. Centrifuge for 20 minutes at 4,000 RPM. Remove promptly and pour off supernatant. Repeat for at least four wash cycles in 10% glycerol. Throughout the process, keep glycerol and cells on ice. Very important for cell survival.
  9. Resuspend each pellet in approximately 1000 μl of 10% glycerol to make a 100x concentration of the initial culture.
  10. Divide into 30-50 µl (I use 40 µl) aliquots in 0.5 or 0.2 ml tubes. Freeze promptly at -80C.
Best wishes.
Good Work.
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I'm trying to make Agrobacterium competent cells, but I always get black pellets when I harvest them, on OD around 0.5, I have tried to change the centrifuge speed into just 3000/4000rpm, 3-10 minutes, also tried to slow the rotation into just 180 rpm. Does anybody has another suggestion? Thank you very much!
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Hi Jennifer,
it is normal to have a tiny bit of a black pellet at the bottom of the tube. If you continue with the procedure, the competent cells will work anyway.
Just to be sure, can you provide a picture of the pellet please?
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I need BL21 competent cells. But i don't have protocol for preparing BL21 competent cells. Kindly help me with this. provide if any standardised protocol anyone have or used?
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There are many protocols to prepare competent cells of E. coli
The most commonly used protocol makes use of chemically-induced competence by the Calcium chloride method. You can find the protocol on this link. I have used it myself during my Bachelor's and it works well. https://jemi.microbiology.ubc.ca/sites/default/files/Chang%20et%20al%20JEMI-methods%20Vol%201%20pg%2022-25.pdf
You can also prepare ultracompetent cells that have excellent and very high transformation efficiency. https://cshlpress.com/pdf/CondProt.pdf
For more reading and protocols you may refer to this book Molecular Cloning (by Sambrook and Russell: Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory Press).
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Is there a special protocol to make PPY SLICE bacterial cells chemically competent, or will the usual protocol for making chemically competent cells work for these cells as well?
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Thank you!
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I am subcloning a gene present in a TA vector into an expression plasmid. This process involves the following;
  • Digest of the TA vector containing the gene of interest with Xba1 and BamH1. Also, digest the expression plasmid with Xbal and BamH1
  • Run the digestion reaction on 1% agarose gel and excise the precise bands (insert and digested vector)
  • Extract the respective DNA (insert and vector) using a gel DNA extraction kit (Monarch's)
  • Perform a Ligation reaction of the eluted insert according to NEB protocol with T4 Ligase.
  • After ligation, I proceed to transform in XL10 competent cell but I do not see colonies afterwards
Recently did this, and found 2 colonies and when I analyzed the colonies, they did not seem to have my vector construct containing my gene of interest. As a matter of fact the plasmid I saw had a higher band size than expected.
At this point, I am not sure what/ where the problem is coming from. I would sincerely crave any suggestions or solutions to making this subclone successfull.
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@Somtochukwu Stella Onwah, I can't say for sure, but it helped when I did a ligation.
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Dear community,
Here is my problem: We have amplified multiple plasmids of various size with chemically competent cells from TOPO kits that were at -80°C and were possibly expired. We got no results for the PUC19 control but got results for our plasmids (confirmed by restriction enzyme digestion). We tried multiple kits and puc19 thinking that maybe we would have different results but none worked. We even PCRed the Puc19 to verify its integrity and they were good.
We proceeded with our plasmid assembly with a brand new kit of electro competent cells this time. And here again the puc19 control didn't work but we got colonies in one of the transformation plates (results to come).
We've tripled check the concentration of ampicillin as well as the protocols, try to troubleshoot multiple times with all the various solutions that we could come up with, but still we cannot get any puc19 control to work.
Maybe I should mention that the ampicillin might be old as well but then why would it work for the transformation and not for the control?
Can someone help deciphering this situation please?
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So turns out all the controls (assembly control and Puc19 control) developped decent amount of colonies but took just a bit more time. I suspect it might be because of the time at 4°C. T = Puc19 Controle = assembly control
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To amplify a plasmid, I transformed it into DB3.1 competent cells. After 16 h incubation in LB culture media, the bacteria were centrifuged, and the bacteria precipitate was a little pink, why?
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Possibly contamination. The following discussion might help you.
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Hi everyone,
I am just trying to do Gibson assembly using HiFi DNA Assembly Master Mix with 4 inserts and a double digested vector with BsaI and BbsI. The information about inserts is as below:
1. 208 bps (17 bp overlap with vector)
2. 1254 bps (20 bp overlap with 1)
3. 815 bps (20 bp overlap with 2)
4. 114 bps (25 bp overlap with vector)
I used different molar ratios using NEB calculator:
I tried 1:2 for all
1:1 for fragment longer than 1000bps
1:5 for lower than 200 bps
and different combinations of all.
1 hour of incubation at 50 celsius. And also used both 10 µl and 20 µl reaction and finally transformed 5 µl of it to the competent cells.
but no colonies...
Would you please help me with it?
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This will be tricky since you have a very 2 short fragments. I suggest you use 1:1 ratio for all except the short fragments use 1:10 ratio.
also be aware of the following:
1- gibson assembly should give a background of mis-constructs if you are unable to get any colonies it means your transformation is toxic. This is most likely due to using 5ul to transform.
2- commercial neb-10 indicates a max of 2ul gibson rxn per 50ul of competent cells. So try your old assemblies with this amount and see if it works.
3-For other strains I suggest you dilute your reaction before transforming but since this is a difficult assembly, an alternative is ethanol precipitate the rxn and transform all of it.
4- You can PCR your GA rxn to get a single gibson fragment by using the assembly primer for the edge fragments hence you will greatly simplify your reaction since it become a single fragment gibson reaction.
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When making competent cells, I accidentally stored them in 0.8 mL eppies instead of 1.5 mL eppies. Is it possible to just transfer the cells to a 1.5 mL eppie before I begin transforming the cells?
I know that the cells are very sensitive and can only be thawed once. Please help.
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There won't be any problem.
We usually store 100 ul aliquots of competent cells in deep freezer.
For transformation, we thaw an aliquot and dispense in different eppendorf tubes in volume as little as 20 ul for one transformation event. However, I refrain from refreezing the remaining cells and storing back to deep freezer.
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Hello,
I am working with E. coli WK6 cells for the first time and I have to make them electrocompetent first. I was wondering if anyone here can tell me what plates I should initially use for the first streak-out to select a colony to make them electrocompetent. In all the protocolls I found it is never specifically mentioned. Can I use normal LB plates? Is there also a medium which works best for WK6 cells or can I use any of the usual?
Also, I was wondering if WK6 cells are usually made electrocompetent or if I can also make them competent for heatshock?
Thank you very much for your help!
Regards, Ines Zettl
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WK6 are highly resistant (strA) to streptomycin (1mg/ml) and can be grown on streptomycin LB plates before making competent cells or glycerol stocks to be sure only WK6 cells are present. When transforming, we do not use streptomycine anymore and only use those antibiotics for keeping the plasmids.